07-03-2019, 10:31 AM
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#121
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
For me it isn't about him being a homer - I just find his interpretations and observations of the game to be...odd.
For someone who watches as much hockey as he does - I find his grasp of the sport to be quite poor.
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I Haven't noticed him being out to lunch on too many occasions but I admit to not listening to the vast majority of what he says (due to having kids who want to listen to Hits1 and not the fan 960)
Do you have an example?
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07-03-2019, 10:38 AM
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#122
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
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This is actually a significant condemnation of his logical reasoning abilities and could go so far as to lay the groundwork for doubt concerning his intelligence and sanity.
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07-03-2019, 10:40 AM
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#123
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Wasn’t Wills doing PBP for the NHL after the Flames were eliminated? That tells me he’s liked in the circles that count in regards to getting work.
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07-03-2019, 10:41 AM
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#124
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Originally Posted by Locke
This is actually a significant condemnation of his logical reasoning abilities and could go so far as to lay the groundwork for doubt concerning his intelligence and sanity.
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Some kind of geographical Stockholm syndrome?
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07-03-2019, 10:42 AM
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#125
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Franchise Player
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Talbot should do #19 and say Koskinen is his favorite goalie of all time.
Troll job like when Jagr said McDavid will score 100 goals.
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07-03-2019, 10:42 AM
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#126
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Wasn’t Wills found PBP for the NHL after the Flames were eliminated? That tells me he’s liked in the circles that count in regards to getting work.
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Nobody is questioning his PBP abilities. He does a reasonable navel job calling games, has a decent cadence.
Describing what happens is quite different from breaking down who is good at what, and why
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07-03-2019, 10:57 AM
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#127
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Franchise Player
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He just seems like s professional radio guy. Decent voice, knows how to speak on the radio etc. vs a hockey guy. If he was only used in a PBP capacity it would be fine instead of being asked to provide opinions or analysis.
I don’t recall Bob Cole being asked for his analysis of a game.
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07-03-2019, 11:01 AM
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#128
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamette
Didn’t see this posted anywhere:
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...-prove-flames/
Some interesting quotes:
"Even the season before last, I don’t think I was as bad as most people thought. One of our top defencemen went down [Andrej Sekera], which is never easy, but I still had 31 wins. Last season was mentally and physically exhausting. It kind of turned quickly and for some reason, I couldn’t stop it.
"To be honest I have a lot to prove. Last year was my worst as a pro and it’s something I don’t take lightly. It will be a redemption year for myself."
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"My understanding is we’re going to be a tandem," said Talbot, owner of a career .915 save percentage, confirming the general assignment he’ll be expected to shoulder.
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After several years under the tutelage of Oilers goalie coach Dustin Schwartz, Talbot is returning to Ontario to spend the next six weeks with Pat DiPronio.
"He’s my old goalie coach from when I was 10 years old in Stoney Creek," said Talbot, who last worked with DiPronio before his breakout 2016-17 season.
"He always seems to know how to get the best out of me.
“I think it’s just resetting — more of a mental thing, going back to my roots and what got me here. I’ll be coming into camp more prepared than I ever have."
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I think he has the right attitude. It sounds like he knows that after the past couple of years, asking for a clear path to a starter's role is too much. Originally it was reported that he turned Philly down because he said he wanted to be the #1.
I am rooting for the guy. My expectations are low though. I'll just be happy if he doesn't Smith the bed.
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07-03-2019, 11:08 AM
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#129
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First Line Centre
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I'm just glad I no longer have to watch Smith make a routine save look overly dramatic
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07-03-2019, 11:10 AM
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#130
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stanley
I'm just glad I no longer have to watch Smith make a routine save look overly dramatic
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Oh, we’ll still get to see it plenty when he’s giving up his routine truck-sized five hole softies and glaring down his “defensemen” in an Oilers rag.
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07-03-2019, 11:11 AM
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#131
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdonkey
Oh, we’ll still get to see it plenty when he’s giving up his routine truck-sized five hole softies and glaring down his “defensemen” in an Oilers rag.
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I am looking forward to seeing THAT! lol
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07-03-2019, 11:27 AM
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#132
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stanley
I'm just glad I no longer have to watch Smith make a routine save look overly dramatic
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I really think that Mike Smith would've made an awesome pro wrestler if the goalie thing didn't work out
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07-03-2019, 11:53 AM
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#133
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stanley
I'm just glad I no longer have to watch Smith make a routine save look overly dramatic
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I just don’t understand why this bothers people so much. I am only concerned that the goalie stops the puck. He could breakdance in the crease for all I care so long as the puck doesn’t go in the net.
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07-03-2019, 12:10 PM
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#134
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: DC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
I just don’t understand why this bothers people so much. I am only concerned that the goalie stops the puck. He could breakdance in the crease for all I care so long as the puck doesn’t go in the net.
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Minimizing unnecessary movement is critical to effective goaltending. The problem with Smith is that he either moves himself too much as to be out of the next play or that he spends too much time on the motion, again leaving him behind the next move. Comparing Smith to a goalie that is focused on economy is night and day.
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07-03-2019, 12:14 PM
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#135
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Not that I disagree completely but you also described Loubardias to a tee yet he seems to escape the same criticism as I can't find anything Wills has done remotely close to Loubardias meltdown regarding Russell. I personally think the dissenting opinions thing is something manufactured to an extent by Kelly Kirch as he seems to think that's an element of good talk radio and he may be right.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
I just don’t understand why this bothers people so much. I am only concerned that the goalie stops the puck. He could breakdance in the crease for all I care so long as the puck doesn’t go in the net.
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Treliving mentioned a few times how Talbot is “quiet” in the net which I kind of took as a contrast with Smith’s style. It is kind of a piss off to see the goalie inexplicably flop around but the Hiller shooter tutor style was pretty tough to watch as well.
Maybe we can get that walrus for cheap.
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07-03-2019, 12:15 PM
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#136
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Normally, my desk
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
I just don’t understand why this bothers people so much. I am only concerned that the goalie stops the puck. He could breakdance in the crease for all I care so long as the puck doesn’t go in the net.
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Kiprusoffitis....Unless a goalie is completely calm, almost emotionless, even while saving the 6th shot during a goal mouth scramble, that goalie is difficult to watch. I suffer from this.
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07-03-2019, 12:59 PM
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#137
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RANDOM USER TITLE CHANGE
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: South Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Treliving mentioned a few times how Talbot is “quiet” in the net which I kind of took as a contrast with Smith’s style. It is kind of a piss off to see the goalie inexplicably flop around but the Hiller shooter tutor style was pretty tough to watch as well.
Maybe we can get that walrus for cheap.
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There have been multiple frustrating styles of goaltending over the past few years. Doesn't seem to matter which goalie it is, but Rittich looks like an exception so far.
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07-03-2019, 01:04 PM
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#138
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeman4Gilmour
Kiprusoffitis....Unless a goalie is completely calm, almost emotionless, even while saving the 6th shot during a goal mouth scramble, that goalie is difficult to watch. I suffer from this.
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Well no, we'd all love him if he was Hasek making those crazy saves. The problem is, Smith over commits on a routine save, takes himself out of the play, and then he's swimming while the puck just gets put in the net. And I'm not talking about crazy hard angles here. We're talking about a routine save where he looks like he's handling a grenade.
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07-03-2019, 01:26 PM
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#139
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
I think he has the right attitude. It sounds like he knows that after the past couple of years, asking for a clear path to a starter's role is too much. Originally it was reported that he turned Philly down because he said he wanted to be the #1.
I am rooting for the guy. My expectations are low though. I'll just be happy if he doesn't Smith the bed.
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Whoa!
Shots fired.
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07-03-2019, 01:28 PM
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#140
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tripin_billie
Minimizing unnecessary movement is critical to effective goaltending. The problem with Smith is that he either moves himself too much as to be out of the next play or that he spends too much time on the motion, again leaving him behind the next move. Comparing Smith to a goalie that is focused on economy is night and day.
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Quite frankly, you don't know the half of what Mike Smith's problem is. He has been goalieing his entire life, and has played the last decade at the highest level, and experienced a good deal of success in that time. Mike Smith plays the way he has always played because that is how he has managed to stay in the NHL until the ripe-old age of 37.
In the end, it's a difference in style and technique because not every goalie is going to feel comfortable playing the position the same way. I think when people complain about Smith overselling "routine saves" it's a confirmation bias. He had a bad year last season, and for those who were frustrated by his performance it was no longer enough to pick at his mistakes and complain; they started picking at the saves he made as a way of engraining that frustration even more deeply—it's an easy path to self satisfaction and certainty. It helps to create a simple narrative, but like all simple stories it was more often than not far from the truth.
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