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Old 11-16-2022, 12:43 PM   #7761
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It is truly sad that someone could watch that interview and then post such utter nonsense.
I'll actually concede it wasn't a well-phrased or agenda-free sounding question, but her answer was hardly "handing his ass to him". She could have addressed the weighted question with misogynist undertones and then gone on to answer the question.
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Old 11-16-2022, 12:47 PM   #7762
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Lol, my guy, Qanon is as popular as ever.

Trump didn't lose, THAT's what your aren't understanding here.
Not sure I understand your response?

I know as far as they are concerned he didn't lose. My hope is that if he "doesn't lose" a second time they will just quit bothering to try. They will just sit home and be jaded about the gov't and all the evil conspiracies. Which will then get rid of all the other Trump crazies that they would be voting for.
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Old 11-16-2022, 12:57 PM   #7763
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Not sure I understand your response?

I know as far as they are concerned he didn't lose. My hope is that if he "doesn't lose" a second time they will just quit bothering to try. They will just sit home and be jaded about the gov't and all the evil conspiracies. Which will then get rid of all the other Trump crazies that they would be voting for.
I think it will energize them further. Q didn't post for almost 18 months, it did absolutely nothing to slow down the movement. It just created more factions and better grifters.

Fanatics and zealots don't back off because their hero lost, they become more fanatical and more zealous.

He was directly stoking them in his speech last night. The next 2-4 years is going to lead to a lot of craziness as Trump grasps on to anything he can to stay relevant.
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Old 11-16-2022, 01:01 PM   #7764
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Lots of Trump supporters were pretty disappointed that Trump didn't announce a MAGA party last night. Does Trump know enough to not split the vote?

If he looks like he's going to lose the nomination (or if he does) then maybe he'll start a MAGA party.

One of the reasons Dems had a good midterms I think is because they seemed to be pretty quiet on the identity politics stuff.

That's one area where DeSantis is NOT quiet and definitely appeals to the more extreme right. Look at his actions with flying people around and stuff. As President he can't do as much without a 60 R senate but he could still do a LOT of harm.
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Old 11-16-2022, 01:08 PM   #7765
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Trumpers have lost 3 elections in row now
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Old 11-16-2022, 01:20 PM   #7766
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This person still has a chance to be a U.S. senator.

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I have to think there is a realistic chance of Trump running as independent if he loses the nomination to Desantis. I don't see any way of stopping him, and he could probably win enough states to keep anyone from getting 270 EC votes. Then that goes to the weird process where each state's delegation gets one vote and Senate picks the VP from one of the losing candidates. Foreseeably, Trump could have a shot at winning that.
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See I think the Dems would take Sates they wouldn't have a prayer in winning otherwise (eg: Texas) because the base that votes R regardless will still vote R. Trump with siphon voted from the GOP, and Dems come up the middle as they aren't losing any votes.
While it would be state by state, I started checking the 1948 election where the Dixiecrats carried several deep south states. One was with 32% or so.

Then I checked 2020 and not all states had 50%+1. Looks like it's a winner takes all, regardless of the winner having a majority of total votes.

Thus Trump would likely render GOP unelectable if he ran as an independent.
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Old 11-16-2022, 01:28 PM   #7768
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This person still has a chance to be a U.S. senator.

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Old 11-16-2022, 01:45 PM   #7769
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I think it will energize them further. Q didn't post for almost 18 months, it did absolutely nothing to slow down the movement. It just created more factions and better grifters.

Fanatics and zealots don't back off because their hero lost, they become more fanatical and more zealous.

He was directly stoking them in his speech last night. The next 2-4 years is going to lead to a lot of craziness as Trump grasps on to anything he can to stay relevant.
While I think you are right in terms of stepping up their 'we need a revolution' game, I think many Trump voters were not exactly normal voters before and would be likely to give up one he's done. That's the problem building a movement around a single person.

While it may be a rough road trying to quell the insurrection activity, I do think we could see a pretty quick turnaround in election outcomes as republican votes dry up.

Who knows, you may be right. Just trying to be optimistic!
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Old 11-16-2022, 02:04 PM   #7770
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While it would be state by state, I started checking the 1948 election where the Dixiecrats carried several deep south states. One was with 32% or so.

Then I checked 2020 and not all states had 50%+1. Looks like it's a winner takes all, regardless of the winner having a majority of total votes.

Thus Trump would likely render GOP unelectable if he ran as an independent.
You may be right. I couldn't find clear language written everywhere and saw some mention of elector being bound to the majority in states where they are bound.

If you have red states that went 40 Biden/35 Trump/25 Desantis, then I have no doubt the electoral college would be a #### show!

I imagine an election with a 3rd candidate getting into the 30% range would end up taking a year to resolve.

I guess the bottom line is that Trump enjoys knowing he has leverage of a nuclear 3rd party threat and will certainly use that if things start going badly for him.
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While I think you are right in terms of stepping up their 'we need a revolution' game, I think many Trump voters were not exactly normal voters before and would be likely to give up one he's done. That's the problem building a movement around a single person.

While it may be a rough road trying to quell the insurrection activity, I do think we could see a pretty quick turnaround in election outcomes as republican votes dry up.

Who knows, you may be right. Just trying to be optimistic!
If they were convinced that Desantis stole the nomination from him, I doubt they are taking that gracefully and showing up to vote for Desantis.
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Old 11-16-2022, 02:38 PM   #7772
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I've gotta think that Republicans right now are hoping that 14th amendment objections to Trump's candidacy are successful because it both takes the headache of him running either for them or as a third party candidate off the table, while also giving them something they can rally against and claim that they're outraged by. Once he's totally removed from the ballot, they can claim that they totally would have supported him when they need to, and also claim that it's a distraction at this point and everyone needs to move on.
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Old 11-16-2022, 02:39 PM   #7773
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This person still has a chance to be a U.S. senator.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1592954140887773184
Is this him practicing for the filibuster?
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Old 11-16-2022, 02:43 PM   #7774
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Haha. I could see him getting roasted on South Park. The material practically writes itself.
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Old 11-16-2022, 03:12 PM   #7775
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That felt like so much longer than 2 mins. That man should never tell another story again, and he should feel very embarrassed.
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You may be right. I couldn't find clear language written everywhere and saw some mention of elector being bound to the majority in states where they are bound.

If you have red states that went 40 Biden/35 Trump/25 Desantis, then I have no doubt the electoral college would be a #### show!

I imagine an election with a 3rd candidate getting into the 30% range would end up taking a year to resolve.

I guess the bottom line is that Trump enjoys knowing he has leverage of a nuclear 3rd party threat and will certainly use that if things start going badly for him.
I don't think it'd be much different from 2020. With the fake electors, insurrection, bull crap.

Arizona, Wisconsin, Georvia, and Pennsylvania were all win by Biden/Harris with less than 50% of the vote.

Of note, Trump/Pence won North Carolina with less than 50%.
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Trump suffers another stinging defection as billionaire GOP megadonor abandons him

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A second major Republican donor has publicly stated that he won't be backing Donald Trump's third presidential run.

Stephen Schwarzman, the chairman, CEO and co-founder of private-equity firm Blackstone, told Axios in a statement that he won't support the former president's campaign for a second term.

"America does better when its leaders are rooted in today and tomorrow, not today and yesterday," Schwarzman said. "It is time for the Republican Party to turn to a new generation of leaders and I intend to support one of them in the presidential primaries."

Schwarzman joins billionaire Ken Griffin, the founder of the Citadel hedge fund, who told Bloomberg on Tuesday that Trump is a "three-time loser" and instead endorsed Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who has not officially entered the race.
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This ad in retrospect looks beyond terrible for Desantis if he's going against Trump

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Going to be an interesting two years and then, maybe 4 more after.

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I haven't paid attention to the mid term results since Friday or so but how is it possible that so many seats in California, mostly, still haven't been figured out after more than a week. Some districts are still around 50% or 60% reporting. That seems really unacceptable.
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That is something I’d like to know as well. What procedures are there in place that justify such delayed reporting?
California by default mails every registered voter a mail in ballot. That ballot is considered legally cast if it is postmarked by Election Day and arrives with 7 days of Election Day.

So yesterday was the first day that election officials had all the ballots.

This is good for voter turnout and preventing the Chiu scenario but bad for timely reporting of results.
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