2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[really?]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

lol at looking at offer sheets. This organization can’t be patient.

Edwards seriously needs to GTFO

A proper offer sheet on a player like Bourque could end up far better than a second or third round pick. There is the potential for a properly priced offer sheet to get a young, 20-22 year old player, for less than a first. I share your concern for the future, but would have no problem with the Flames moving in such a direction.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by really?

A proper offer sheet on a player like Bourque could end up far better than a second or third round pick. There is the potential for a properly priced offer sheet to get a young, 20-22 year old player, for less than a first. I share your concern for the future, but would have no problem with the Flames moving in such a direction.

As long as it's no more than a second round pick, it should be fine for a player like Bourque.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Both Farabee and Frost are solid players. You can't expect them to put up the numbers they should in this system.

But getting points at a 25 point pace isn't the answer.

[Niemo]

I know most will say that Conroy has a plan and has been following it based on everyone he traded away. I'm still skeptical because it seems like he was ready to keep everyone until they asked for a trade.

Lindholm and Markstrom would still be on this team if they didn't "ask out". Hanifin would've been the only one I kept of them all and he asked out. Toffolli asked out, Tanev due to age, etc.

We did not entertain offers for Kadri, Andersson, Coleman or Weegar because they did not ask out.

There is still quite a bit of the nice guy syndrome here. Im praying that Rasmus either asks out or asks for too much money.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I’ve always wondered what Conroys real plan was because he bombed his 1st interview by his own admission and was coached up by Baloney for the 2nd.

He must have told Edwards he was going to rip it up at first. We know that Feaster got the job by telling Edwards what he wanted to hear.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by really?

A proper offer sheet on a player like Bourque could end up far better than a second or third round pick. There is the potential for a properly priced offer sheet to get a young, 20-22 year old player, for less than a first. I share your concern for the future, but would have no problem with the Flames moving in such a direction.

That’s the think. How many more 2nd and 3rd liners do we need ?

Honestly feels like we have no direction and pivot game to game.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

That’s the think. How many more 2nd and 3rd liners do we need ?

Honestly feels like we have no direction and pivot game to game.

No, they just have a direction that doesn't go along with your perception of how a team should be built.

[CFO]

Focus needs be on goal scoring.

If the Flames added a legit 25-30 goal guy that would put them now near middle of the pack in teams goals for.

Let alone how it would impact other players on the team


Example - add in a guy like Marner and then a young zayne.

Offensive this would drive things.

Only focus after that is a legit center.

[really?]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

That’s the think. How many more 2nd and 3rd liners do we need ?

Honestly feels like we have no direction and pivot game to game.

The team needs a second line center and Bourque, specifically, has at least as good a chance of becoming that than does a, yet to be minted, second line pick.

I think Conroy has a direction, but you may be right that ownership has something different in mind. Certainly the veterans in the room are concerned about this and next year. Conroy has to give these interests attention with every move he makes. To date he hasn’t mortgaged any significant part of the future in favor of present interests, and as long as he stays the course, there is still a very clear path to a bright future.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

But getting points at a 25 point pace isn't the answer.

Changing the system is the answer.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by really?

The team needs a second line center and Bourque, specifically, has at least as good a chance of becoming that than does a, yet to be minted, second line pick.

I think Conroy has a direction, but you may be right that ownership has something different in mind. Certainly the veterans in the room are concerned about this and next year. Conroy has to give these interests attention with every move he makes. To date he hasn’t mortgaged any significant part of the future in favor of present interests, and as long as he stays the course, there is still a very clear path to a bright future.

In my mind we have enough 2nd and 3rd liners. The team needs elite superstar talent on the top line. Going out and finding 2nd and 3rd liners are easier those guys are available in trades and free agency.

Having a team with enough talent to keep you fighting for a playoff spot but not being a contender and not bad enough to bottom out what is happening here. And in 3-4 years we will be selling off Frost and Farabee and guys and doing this all over again with a new GM and a new vision of doing the same things.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Changing the system is the answer.

Flames just had 2 huge gutsy effort wins. Outcoached the other team in both and you still cant stop bitching.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

In my mind we have enough 2nd and 3rd liners. The team needs elite superstar talent on the top line. Going out and finding 2nd and 3rd liners are easier those guys are available in trades and free agency.

Having a team with enough talent to keep you fighting for a playoff spot but not being a contender and not bad enough to bottom out what is happening here. And in 3-4 years we will be selling off Frost and Farabee and guys and doing this all over again with a new GM and a new vision of doing the same things.

You say it 100 times a day, move on with your life

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dino7c

You say it 100 times a day, move on with your life

No one is talking to you.

[robertsfanatic]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

lol at looking at offer sheets. This organization can’t be patient.

Edwards seriously needs to GTFO

I haven't gone through each post but was it mentioned that this is an organizational decree? Or is it just something every GM considers? Especially with how the STL offer sheets have turned out.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

Flames just had 2 huge gutsy effort wins. Outcoached the other team in both and you still cant stop bitching.

I'm not bitching, I am pointing out you can't be mad at our two new players for lack of production in a system where you don't score a lot.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by robertsfanatic

I haven't gone through each post but was it mentioned that this is an organizational decree? Or is it just something every GM considers? Especially with how the STL offer sheets have turned out.

Paulie is getting butthurt about rumors again...any smart GM should be looking at all available options.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

No one is talking to you.

As you quote me directly...

We get it, your plan is throwing games and winning lotteries. Saying it 100x a day isnt gonna change anything.

[really?]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

In my mind we have enough 2nd and 3rd liners. The team needs elite superstar talent on the top line. Going out and finding 2nd and 3rd liners are easier those guys are available in trades and free agency.

Having a team with enough talent to keep you fighting for a playoff spot but not being a contender and not bad enough to bottom out what is happening here. And in 3-4 years we will be selling off Frost and Farabee and guys and doing this all over again with a new GM and a new vision of doing the same things.

I appreciate your perspective and agree that absent a true 1c this team is going to struggle to be anything beyond a 6-8 team in the west. Some teams made a conscious effort to acquire high end talent, and while they won’t intentionally take such steps, absent moves in the offseason to add more of a veteran footprint next year the Flames may well be in the position you expected them to occupy this year.

The Flames need a center who can drive line 2, and while he may not end up being the cheese on that cracker, paying a second to find out if he is doesn’t tell me the Flames are pushing the chips in for the next couple of seasons.

[Major Major]

This whole rfa thing is a fantasy. When is anyone going to find a team as dumb as Edmonton? It's not possible.