[News] Marek - recent 1st round pick unlikely to play in NHL due to video game addiction

[CF84]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

imo gaming and netflix are two sides of the same coin...

both are there just to allow you to lose yourself in something that isn't your day to day...

Unless, of course, it becomes your day to day

[rhino]

For craps sake, who the hell cares??? I can’t believe there are pages of arguments that E Sports are a legitimate sport. Summer is near go get outside.

[stone hands]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I don't know that this is what they are disputing. I think they are disagreeing on whether esports are sports, not whether people like to watch them. Jai alai isn't popular but no one disputes it's a sport. Televised tournament or high stakes poker is pretty darned popular (not as much as couple years ago) but not many people would call it a sport. Then there's a whole range of stuff in between, from darts to golf to autosports to sailing to Irish dancing, etc.

i think saying it won't amount to anything more than TV poker when many events already get higher viewership than traditional sports is denying the popularity of it

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by united

I'm in my early thirties and haven't played a video game since I was 25 probably, maybe younger even. While most friends moved on years ago, a couple friends still play video games on a regular basis and I've never been able to figure out what the attraction was. If they make money off it, now it all makes sense, but otherwise it completely blows my mind they are still gaming in their thirties.

But why is it ok to watch movies or do crossword puzzles at whatever age in your life yet video games should cease at a certain age? There's a stigma or an assumption from a lot of people that gaming is for kids, but that's ignorant. It's like when my dad use to criticize me for watching the simpsons when i was a teen because he thought since it was a cartoon that it was meant for kids, yet the jokes and story lines were clearly geared towards adults.

To me, these are all mediums that ultimately fall in the category of entertainment and why judge anyone for choosing their own form of leisurely activity. As games evolve and become even more advanced (i.e. Virtual Reality) and it becomes more easily accessible (i.e. smart phones), not only will there be more and more people gaming, but people will likely be gaming further and further into their adult lives.

[OutOfTheCube]

You can really tell in this thread who the 35+ former jocks are. Just the same guys who picked on the nerds in middle school that are mad video games are going to overtake regular sports in popularity (if they haven't already).

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

imo gaming and netflix are two sides of the same coin...

both are there just to allow you to lose yourself in something that isn't your day to day...

I watch Netflix at my gym while running on the treadmill. I don't know what that means.

[Toonage]

It means in a few years millions will be watching you watching Netflix for sport.

[Flamenspiel]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

But why is it ok to watch movies or do crossword puzzles at whatever age in your life yet video games should cease at a certain age? There's a stigma or an assumption from a lot of people that gaming is for kids, but that's ignorant. It's like when my dad use to criticize me for watching the simpsons when i was a teen because he thought since it was a cartoon that it was meant for kids, yet the jokes and story lines were clearly geared towards adults.

There is no stigma, as you get older, time gets more precious and you have better things to do.

I took up skeet shooting, photography, had kids and played sports with them among other things. Some of my friends bought real cars and raced them(legally), learned to play a real guitar instead of the game. Some people had kids and coached real hockey teams instead of sport similations.

[OutOfTheCube]

“There is no stigma, I’ll just clearly the explain that I have a stigma against it and here are the things I don’t.”

[Flamenspiel]

^^lol

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Flamenspiel

There is no stigma, as you get older, time gets more precious and you have better things to do.

I took up skeet shooting, photography, had kids and played sports with them among other things. Some of my friends bought real cars and raced them(legally). Some people had kids and coached real hockey teams instead of sport similations.

Yeah and you just made my point for me. Your post basically assumes that there is a stigma because somehow skeet shooting or photography is at a higher level than "sport simulations." It's really all the same in the end, they're all leisure activities in your down time. I honestly don't care what people want to do in their free time. I'm not a big gamer, I don't shoot things, but I'm also not going to judge anyone either. If someone wants to game till they're 90, go for it; to each their own.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Yeah and you just made my point for me. Your post basically assumes that there is a stigma because somehow skeet shooting or photography is at a higher level than "sport simulations." It's really all the same in the end, they're all leisure activities in your down time. I honestly don't care what people want to do in their free time. I'm not a big gamer, I don't shoot things, but I'm also not going to judge anyone either. If someone wants to game till they're 90, go for it; to each their own.

One is at least a real activity, not a simulation. That's why it gets higher value. If some guy learned how to race cars in real life he probably had a more interesting life experience than a guy who spent hours playing Forza.

I like video games as much as anyone but there is certainly more value to real life experiences than simulations. It is something that dawns on you the older you get. Its not about not liking video games.

[stone hands]

Originally Posted by Igottago

One is at least a real activity, not a simulation. That's why it gets higher value. If some guy learned how to race cars in real life he probably had a more interesting life experience than a guy who spent hours playing Forza.

I like video games as much as anyone but there is certainly more value to real life experiences than simulations. It is something that dawns on you the older you get. Its not about not liking video games.

...or it's just a thing you are into, regardless of age?

[OutOfTheCube]

There's not just inherently more value to real life experience though, that's an opinion. If the justification is "Well, you'll just understand it when you're older", it's pretty likely you're just out of touch and don't really understand why people feel about something the way they do.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by Igottago

One is at least a real activity, not a simulation. That's why it gets higher value. If some guy learned how to race cars in real life he probably had a more interesting life experience than a guy who spent hours playing Forza.

I like video games as much as anyone but there is certainly more value to real life experiences than simulations. It is something that dawns on you the older you get. Its not about not liking video games.

Is it though? I mean, both are based on what a person values, and you're using your opinion to judge what other people should value. If say a person derives zero value and has no interest in travelling and sight seeing but instead finds better value in gaming, why would the "real life" activity hold more value?

[jammies]

Leisure implies doing something strictly for its enjoyment. Any "value" is incidental to the activity. One might as well decry playing rec hockey instead of learning to build sailboats or bow-hunt for your own food, if utility is going to be the measure by which you decide which pursuits are worthy and which are not.

[CF84]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

There's not just inherently more value to real life experience though, that's an opinion. If the justification is "Well, you'll just understand it when you're older", it's pretty likely you're just out of touch and don't really understand why people feel about something the way they do.

Okay, I love gaming, but this is just wrong. Real life experience with my wife and daughter crushes gaming and always will and should. If gaming ever has the same value as spending time with my wife and daughter then I'm a terrible husband and father.

I can tell you right now that no game will ever give anyone, in the world, the same amount of joy I get from seeing my daughter grow.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Igottago

One is at least a real activity, not a simulation. That's why it gets higher value. If some guy learned how to race cars in real life he probably had a more interesting life experience than a guy who spent hours playing Forza.

I like video games as much as anyone but there is certainly more value to real life experiences than simulations. It is something that dawns on you the older you get. Its not about not liking video games.

But at the end of the day, there’s really no difference. Sure, one is real and the other one isn’t, but they both fall into the category of entertainment. Both things cost you money, they likely won’t gain you money. One is real, the other one isn’t. One is more convenient, the other one isn’t. One has a higher risk factor, the other one doesn’t.

There’s pros and cons to both. I’m not going to say the video game is the cooler experience because it probably isn’t, but I wouldn’t chastise anyone for enjoying the video game experience more instead either. It’s all based on the person and my main point was that video games have a place in this world regardless of who you are or what your age is.

[OutOfTheCube]

Originally Posted by CF84

Okay, I love gaming, but this is just wrong. Real life experience with my wife and daughter crushes gaming and always will and should. If gaming ever has the same value as spending time with my wife and daughter then I'm a terrible husband and father.

I can tell you right now that no game will ever give anyone, in the world, the same amount of joy I get from seeing my daughter grow.

Why not play video games with your family? Best of both worlds!

[Flames_Gimp]

Video games a sport? LOL

Love the "its popular so it's a sport" justifications...... eating tide pods was popular, doesn't make it legit.

I love video games, but this is getting silly