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Old 08-12-2019, 07:11 PM   #161
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I agree that the impact to the Flames shouldn't be too much as Valimaki wasn't likely to play top 4 minutes, but the impact to his development is something to be concerned about. He'll have played roughly 40ish games in two years if he is out this year until April-ish. The most important factor for prospects is ice time and he will have had very little with his last two injuries.
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Old 08-12-2019, 08:22 PM   #162
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Any interest in Ben Hutton? He's younger than most of the UFAs still available. He'd be looking for more than just a one year contract.
Dude is okay, able to eat minutes I guess, but they aren't good minutes. Seems to me you're better off having internal solutions take on a bigger role in the short term. An injury to Valimaki surely isn't going to sewer them, they should manage.
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Old 08-12-2019, 08:31 PM   #163
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Old 08-12-2019, 09:11 PM   #164
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Please tell me Poe's Law applies here.
As in having no money to spend and replacing Valimaki with Phaneuf would be like going from poor to po’?

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Old 08-12-2019, 09:24 PM   #165
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Phaneuf on a PTO?

I would do it...why not. Its not like the Flames will ask him to play top minutes
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Old 08-12-2019, 09:44 PM   #166
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I imagine that they value the locker room presence of a veteran 6-7th D more than most roster positions. I’m not sure what Phaneuf is like in a dressing room these days, but that would potentially be the ‘downside’. Prout seemed like the perfect kind of person for that role
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Old 08-12-2019, 09:48 PM   #167
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I would PTO Phaneuf. But would Dion go for a PTO, or does he believe he's above that?

Flames-era Phaneuf and Boston-era Lucic incoming? Jk.
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I imagine that they value the locker room presence of a veteran 6-7th D more than most roster positions. I’m not sure what Phaneuf is like in a dressing room these days, but that would potentially be the ‘downside’. Prout seemed like the perfect kind of person for that role
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Old 08-12-2019, 09:50 PM   #169
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We have Kylington who filled in seamlessly for half of last season yet people are suggesting Phaneuf who was so bad the Kings didn't even want him?
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Old 08-12-2019, 10:18 PM   #170
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We have Kylington who filled in seamlessly for half of last season yet people are suggesting Phaneuf who was so bad the Kings didn't even want him?
The GM himself suggested adding depth on D...its August and the Flames already have a major injury
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Old 08-12-2019, 10:23 PM   #171
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The GM himself suggested adding depth on D...its August and the Flames already have a major injury
He did. May as well see if Grossmann is available too.

Phaneuf should be the last choice. That he seems to be some people's first choice just surprises me given we have all seen his recent body of work.

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Old 08-12-2019, 10:24 PM   #172
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I agree with most that the Valimaki injury in itself isn’t a devastating hit to the team. The problem is that it’s almost an entire season long recovery...during which there are inevitably other injuries. We currently have 6 NHL caliber defencemen, assuming Anderson and Kylington don’t take a step backwards, but there’s a huge drop after that.

Unfortunately waiting for the Tkachuk situation to sort itself out might handicap them during training camp PTOs. The potential for one-way deals is key for those type of borderline NHL vets.
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Old 08-12-2019, 10:28 PM   #173
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Its too bad they couldn't have found a way to hold onto the guy they gave up a 4th round pick for last spring. Fantenberg cost the Canucks less than $900k and he was just fine here in that 5/6D role
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Old 08-12-2019, 10:30 PM   #174
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He did. May as well see if Grossmann is available too.

Phaneuf should be the last choice. That he seems to be some people's first choice just surprises me given we have all seen his recent body of work.
Dion was a good player in a fairly limited role with the Sens...Everyone sucked in LA even Doughty.

Of all the guys you could PTO/league min. right now Dion has the most upside IMO
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Old 08-12-2019, 11:09 PM   #175
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No chance the Flames even consider Phaneuf. David Schlemko perhaps.
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Old 08-12-2019, 11:16 PM   #176
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neat. Because juuso valimaki was on the nhl roster for 50+ games last season, #flames are on the hook for his entire nhl salary ($894k) until he's cleared.
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Would the flames be able to put him on LTIR?
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Old 08-12-2019, 11:35 PM   #178
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Would the flames be able to put him on LTIR?
I believe so.
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This offseason just gets better and better...
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Old 08-13-2019, 12:42 AM   #180
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Well the Flames did make a 1st round pick and James Neal is no longer on the team but yeah overall this off season has been very frustrating.
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