People in Canada don't call Calgary small town, but if you expand beyond Canadian borders lots of people would call Calgary small town, if people knew where Calgary was or anything about it beyond the Stampede (which only reinforces the small town comment).
People in Canada don't call Calgary small town, but if you expand beyond Canadian borders lots of people would call Calgary small town, if people knew where Calgary was or anything about it beyond the Stampede (which only reinforces the small town comment).
Calgary is no New York or LA but its not an Edmonton either. It doesn't have the history to be a "big town" and new arena district isn't going to make it a big town.
What a bizzare thing to be concerned about, are we small town or not? Who cares,we are what we are. We are a city of 1.2m people, which is small or large depending your perspective. We certainly are small town and always will be in comparison to the worlds biggest most metropolitan cities (New Yorks of the world) and no arena project will change that. And we'll always be larger than where most people in the world live too, regardless of arena.
As for World Class, has nothing to do with size. This city constantly ranks top 10 places to live in the world......sounds world class to me. New arena's and other investments are part of ensuring that stays.
But holly Molly the number of people that worry about weird crap like does someone in Toronto call us small town or hick or country is redicilous. We aren't NYC and never will be, but we also have some great stuff going on, stop worrying about small town thinking, it's not a thing.
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Calgary is no New York or LA but its not an Edmonton either. It doesn't have the history to be a "big town" and new arena district isn't going to make it a big town.
Exactly what differentiates Calgary from Edmonton? Seriously? Putting the long standing rivalry aside, what makes Calgary bigger or better than Edmonton? Population? They're both middling sized cities? Economics? I think Calgary is hurting just as bad as Edmonton at the moment. Not much difference. Political influence? Edmonton has Calgary there. Education facilities? U of A is a much better university than U of C. Cultural attractions? Edmonton has a definite facilities advantage and continues to extend that edge. It's great to make fun of Edmonton and the sweat pant wearing mullet set up in the City of Chumps, but I don't see Calgary having much that makes it better than their provincial counterpart, outside of proximity to the Rocky Mountains.
Well actually, the Flames can build a rink on their own. This is a mega project that absolutely requires public funds.
You can accept that, or not.
I accept the fact, but I disagree with the notion.
Let the Flames build a rink. Calgary will not float or sink without CalgaryNEXT. Our perception to the outside world (not that it matters) will be unchanged regardless.
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This white elephant would likely do more harm to Calgary's reputation than it does good. Just because the Flames have touted it as 'World Class', doesn't make it so.
I'm just happy council appears to see that and likely just doing it's due diligence in allowing the Flames to respond to their concerns before ruling this whole idea a dud. The Flames will have to put in some real effort now to overcome the shortcomings of their initial proposal and it seems unlikely they'll be able to.
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Would you rather calgary be perpetually known as 'small town'?
A mega project like this would be a step in the right direction.
Said nothing about the project, but rather the overuse of a tired, ridiculous phrase that has no real meaning. Its very use is what limits it IMHO. Seems very small town to have to prove it and use it as a selling point.
But maybe thats the point - a bit of reverse psychology lol
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Sounds like the CalgaryNEXT plan wasn't that good. Did the Flames actually do their homework? Sounds like Football and Hockey will need to be separated, and Hockey's going to have to look at the Stampede grounds. Its seems like Ken King may have really dropped the ball on this one.
I don't think I've seen anything earlier in this thread...are there any other examples of combined fieldhouse/football stadium similar to what is proposed in CNext? We've seen dozens of other concepts of arena concourse and stadium roofing solutions to compare to, but I don't remember any combined fieldhouse/stadium examples. I'm sure some must exist in US colleges (but even then they would be intended for college population more than general public)...
I don't think I've seen anything earlier in this thread...are there any other examples of combined fieldhouse/football stadium similar to what is proposed in CNext? We've seen dozens of other concepts of arena concourse and stadium roofing solutions to compare to, but I don't remember any combined fieldhouse/stadium examples. I'm sure some must exist in US colleges (but even then they would be intended for college population more than general public)...
I believe when it was first introduced King mentioned one other place that was looking at it.
I believe it was in Russia
EDIT: VTB Arena in Moscow currently under construction (with changes to how the two surfaces are aligned.)
Sounds like the CalgaryNEXT plan wasn't that good. Did the Flames actually do their homework? Sounds like Football and Hockey will need to be separated, and Hockey's going to have to look at the Stampede grounds. Its seems like Ken King may have really dropped the ball on this one.
Not so much dropped the ball, but perhaps too ambitious. the logic choice for arena and stadium are so very clear - and for good reason.
I believe when it was first introduced King mentioned one other place that was looking at it.
I believe it was in Russia
EDIT: VTB Arena in Moscow currently under construction (with changes to how the two surfaces are aligned.)
Thanks - I wasn't so much wondering about stadium+arena, but rather stadium+fieldhouse. That Moscow example looks very cool (and rings a bell from earlier) but does not seem to have a public fieldhouse component.
I'm more curious about seeing the retractable seating ideas, etc. actually in practice and how various user groups feel about it.
For instance, Edmonton has 'Joe Clarke Athletic Grounds' adjacent to commonwealth stadium, but that's not to the same scope of what's being prepared, and not actually a shared footprint...
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