2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Canada 02]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

That's a little out of left field.

paraphrasing, Armstrong said he wants a 3-year re-build, not a 7 year re-build

[saillias]

Originally Posted by memphusk

Can confirm that I saw Treliving at the airport and he was on the phone. Hahahaha

can you knock the phone out of his hands?

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

paraphrasing, Armstrong said he wants a 3-year re-build, not a 7 year re-build

That’s what you can do when you do it in a focused matter.

No guarantee of success, but three years of selling off and losing? Yep.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by saillias

can you knock the phone out of his hands?

I was too busy watching my kids take pictures with the players. Next time

[ComixZone]

Frank on the Fan960 just now - calls Armstrong a killer (and alludes to the fact that Treliving is not, as it's the comparison Frank brought up when discussing Flames potentially "selling"). St. Louis doesn't sit still with mediocre rosters, Armstrong has accepted that they're not a good team right now and willing to do whatever they can to improve going forward including acquiring picks, and possibly using those picks for long term solutions.

A pain point for me is that St. Louis won the Stanley Cup 4 seasons ago, and their young players are better than all of our young players. That's not acceptable work from Treliving. How does St. Louis have Kyrou, Thomas in the big show already as 24 and 23 year olds, while we have nothing near that level in that age range. Not good enough from the management team.

[Harry Lime]

Perunovich in st. Louis is on a conditioning stint in the ahl right now. They also just got Scandella back. I wonder if they might be looking for a buyer for Faulk, Krug or payrako.

[sureLoss]

TSN insider trading:

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/insider...e-inqu~2633041

Blues are willing to include 2 1st round picks in a package for Meier
Jets and Vegas also inquired
LeBrun still thinks NJ and Canes are frontrunners

Orlov's name has started appearing on trade chatter
Caps haven't given up on re-signing Orlov
If the Caps get a strong offer they might move him

Unless something goes horribly wrong, Wings will not sell
Wings willing to take the chance they can re-sign Bertuzzi before July 1st

Preds talking calls on many players most notably on Ekholm
Not full on sellers yet, but have begun to investigate the market

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Frank on the Fan960 just now - calls Armstrong a killer (and alludes to the fact that Treliving is not, as it's the comparison Frank brought up when discussing Flames potentially "selling"). St. Louis doesn't sit still with mediocre rosters, Armstrong has accepted that they're not a good team right now and willing to do whatever they can to improve going forward including acquiring picks, and possibly using those picks for long term solutions.

A pain point for me is that St. Louis won the Stanley Cup 4 seasons ago, and their young players are better than all of our young players. That's not acceptable work from Treliving. How does St. Louis have Kyrou, Thomas in the big show already as 24 and 23 year olds, while we have nothing near that level in that age range. Not good enough from the management team.

Thomas was mid round pick hit, Valimaki was a bust.

Kyrou was actually taken with the pick we moved for Elliott so that one stings a bit.

Thomas was taken in 2017, and Kyrou in 2016. Blues also drafted Kostin and Thompson in those same two drafts - but they were moved.

From the same two drafts the Flames picked: Tkachuk, Fox, Dube, Valimaki, and Ruzicka who are NHLers

Go back to 2015 and the Blues have Dunn and Mikkola as NHLers from that draft...the Flames have Andersson, Kylington, and Mangiapane.

So tough to say they are doing such a better job drafting young talent...unfortunately Fox wouldn't sign, and Tkachuk demanded out, but otherwise we actually drafted better than the Blues in those 2015-2017 drafts.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

2 firsts (and maybe more) is a pretty great offer for Meier. I guess he's going to St. Louis.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

2 firsts (and maybe more) is a pretty great offer for Meier. I guess he's going to St. Louis.

If NJ and Carolina are the frontrunners, I would assume they offered even more.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

If NJ and Carolina are the frontrunners, I would assume they offered even more.

They have some pretty high end prospects not on the nhl team, to add to a first. Both NJ and Carolina.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Frank on the Fan960 just now - calls Armstrong a killer (and alludes to the fact that Treliving is not, as it's the comparison Frank brought up when discussing Flames potentially "selling"). St. Louis doesn't sit still with mediocre rosters, Armstrong has accepted that they're not a good team right now and willing to do whatever they can to improve going forward including acquiring picks, and possibly using those picks for long term solutions.

A pain point for me is that St. Louis won the Stanley Cup 4 seasons ago, and their young players are better than all of our young players. That's not acceptable work from Treliving. How does St. Louis have Kyrou, Thomas in the big show already as 24 and 23 year olds, while we have nothing near that level in that age range. Not good enough from the management team.

That’s great but Armstrong has ownership approval to sell. I don’t think that exists for Tre. Our ownership is get in and anything can happen.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

They have some pretty high end prospects not on the nhl team, to add to a first. Both NJ and Carolina.

Yeah. Unless one of the firsts in a St Louis pick than the Canes and Devils can beat two late first round picks

[Paulie Walnuts]

I don't get the hyper for Timo. If the Killer wants to trade two firsts for him go ahead.

Frank continues to prove he is an idiot and crybaby if he doesn't report a trade look at the O'Reilly trade saying they suck and should have gotten Kane.

The Blues fired the coach and rode a AHL call up goalie who went on a hot streak to a cup in game 7. What a killer that GM is had a team in last place.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Thomas was mid round pick hit, Valimaki was a bust.

Kyrou was actually taken with the pick we moved for Elliott so that one stings a bit.

Thomas was taken in 2017, and Kyrou in 2016. Blues also drafted Kostin and Thompson in those same two drafts - but they were moved.

From the same two drafts the Flames picked: Tkachuk, Fox, Dube, Valimaki, and Ruzicka who are NHLers

Go back to 2015 and the Blues have Dunn and Mikkola as NHLers from that draft...the Flames have Andersson, Kylington, and Mangiapane.

So tough to say they are doing such a better job drafting young talent...unfortunately Fox wouldn't sign, and Tkachuk demanded out, but otherwise we actually drafted better than the Blues in those 2015-2017 drafts.

We draft well, in addition to your post another poster did the math to support this. That's why I don't like moving picks for rentals. For long termers maybe, but...

The players with the most 'give a ####' always seem to be the ones that came up through the system.

This team is not being honest with itself about what it is. Any talk of rentals to patch holes is stupid.

The contracts we signed last summer, while understand why we did it, are stupid. Each has at least 3 years of bad value and NMCs. Why didn't Edwards intervene and stop those if he is so involved in the running of the team? LOL

Sell, sell, sell! Sell high on guys! Package awesome contracts with bad ones. Move guys before MNCs kick in.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

We draft well, in addition to your post another poster did the math to support this. That's why I don't like moving picks for rentals. For long termers maybe, but...

The players with the most 'give a ####' always seem to be the ones that came up through the system.

This team is not being honest with itself about what it is. Any talk of rentals to patch holes is stupid.

The contracts we signed last summer, while understand why we did it, are stupid. Each has at least 3 years of bad value and NMCs. Why didn't Edwards intervene and stop those if he is so involved in the running of the team? LOL

Sell, sell, sell! Sell high on guys! Package awesome contracts with bad ones. Move guys before MNCs kick in.

It isn't happening man.

[sureLoss]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1628201167179112451

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

We draft well, in addition to your post another poster did the math to support this. That's why I don't like moving picks for rentals. For long termers maybe, but...

The players with the most 'give a ####' always seem to be the ones that came up through the system.

This team is not being honest with itself about what it is. Any talk of rentals to patch holes is stupid.

The contracts we signed last summer, while understand why we did it, are stupid. Each has at least 3 years of bad value and NMCs. Why didn't Edwards intervene and stop those if he is so involved in the running of the team? LOL

Sell, sell, sell! Sell high on guys! Package awesome contracts with bad ones. Move guys before MNCs kick in.

Why didn’t Edwards intervene?

He was probably on board and, obviously, signed off on the return for the Tkachuk trade as well as the contract extensions handed out. I would also bet he was well informed on the Kadri pursuit and the moves required to make it happen.

The course to stay in a competitive window, opposed to taking a step back, or full blown rebuild, was almost certainly set by Edwards and Flames ownership.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

https://twitter.com/user/status/1628201167179112451

We’ve got a situation!!

[Toonage]

A few soon to be disappointed GMs wondering if the Flames are going to become sellers