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Old 06-28-2017, 12:12 PM   #201
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I suppose the union is banking on the addition of LV as a means for league revenue increase next season which is reasonable. However as long as the Canadian dollar is trash league revenue is going to remain largely flat and using the escalator puts money in the pockets of pending UFA's while taking money out of the pockets of players under contract which seems to be causing some friction within the union. Players may hate escrow but without it they can't have the escalator so they may need to be realistic in that the salary cap isn't going to hit those magical numbers forecasted years back. What's worse for the NHL is that with Cable TV industry on the decline they face lower future income on their TV deals. We may be close to the golden age of salaries in the NHL.
Vegas only moves the needle forward if their revenues come in above league average. They certainly won't move it by a significant degree though.

Personally, I think the upcoming TV armageddon is known to the union and why they would really like to find a way to break the linked cap. Because as it stands, the NHL would weather that changing landscape better than the other big leagues precisely because the players aren't guaranteed 100% salary.

It possibly also plays into the thought process of MCDavid's agent. Sure, he'd lose a lot to escrow if that armageddon happens, but he'll still make a lot more than if he had to negotiate a new contract in that new reality.
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Old 06-28-2017, 12:12 PM   #202
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I'll be somewhat irked if Treliving doesn't offer sheet Draisatl.

Edit: Wait. Never mind. We don't have the picks to do it.
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Teams should absolutely be throwing offer sheets at Draisaitl. If there is one franchise that deserves to have the unwritten rules broken on them, it's Edmonton.
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Old 06-28-2017, 12:13 PM   #206
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How soon can another team tender an offer sheet? Do they have to wait for the beginning of free agency on 1 July?
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Old 06-28-2017, 12:15 PM   #207
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If anyone deserves an offer sheet its the Oilers

They had no business picking either of those players after 3 first overall picks
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Won't it help the Oilers out if a team offer sheets Draisaitl for $9M. It'll save them from a ridiculous overpayment, they get 2 1st rounders and a 2nd, and they can spend a more reasonable amount (~$6M) on a proven winger for much cheaper.

I get that Draisaitl is a wonderful prospect but he's definitely not worth close to $10M at this point. The team that signs him to that offer sheet will be much worse off!
I agree that he is not worth that - I don't think there is any question about it.

However, they are about to sign McJesus for $13.25M. Pretty hard to convert your second best player into draft picks immediately afterwards.

With commitments to players like Lucic, and long term contracts for guys like Klefbom, how do they let their second best player just leave?

They can't. They have to match.

And then good fooking luck building a winner around those two contracts!

The rest of the league will sit back and smile if someone submits an offer sheet.
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McGuire: Teams will offer sheet Draisaitl if McDavid makes $13.25M
This could be a really easy negotiation for Draisaitl's agent. He can tell Chiarelli, I have "x" offersheets giving my client $9M x 5 years. Match it or he signs elsewhere.

Chiarelli has already told his fanbase he'll match any offer sheet. This could get very interesting...
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Won't it help the Oilers out if a team offer sheets Draisaitl for $9M. It'll save them from a ridiculous overpayment, they get 2 1st rounders and a 2nd, and they can spend a more reasonable amount (~$6M) on a proven winger for much cheaper.

I get that Draisaitl is a wonderful prospect but he's definitely not worth close to $10M at this point. The team that signs him to that offer sheet will be much worse off!
I'd rather have Draisaitl at 9 mill than whatever they would get for 6 which is probably slim pickins.

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Vegas only moves the needle forward if their revenues come in above league average. They certainly won't move it by a significant degree though.
Also, all the league-wide sponsorship contracts will now be split 31 ways instead of 30. Depending on how much money those bring in, even if Vegas is an above-average team on its own, the per-team HRR could still drop.
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I'd rather have Draisaitl at 9 mill then whatever they would get for 6 which is probably slim pickins.
I dunno...it's close:

Package A: 2 1st round picks, a 2nd round pick, Kovalchuk at 3 years @ $6M, additional $3M in cap space for flexibility

Package B: Draisaitl locked into a long-term, above market value contract
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Come on McPhee, do something useful.
It would actually make a ton of sense for Vegas to offer sheet Draisatl. They have so many picks at their disposal and cap room to burn once they finish making the trades they need to make.

Drop the guy a 7 year $63M offer and watch Oiler nation explode!
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Kovalchuk just left the tundra, no way he signs in Siberia this season.
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Old 06-28-2017, 12:22 PM   #218
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I feel like Montreal will be one of the teams that will put an offer sheet on Drai
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Old 06-28-2017, 12:24 PM   #219
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I dunno...it's close:

Package A: 2 1st round picks, a 2nd round pick, Kovalchuk at 3 years @ $6M, additional $3M in cap space for flexibility

Package B: Draisaitl locked into a long-term, above market value contract
You are making a lot of assumptions
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