Flames practice notes: January 25 - No Tanev

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Two games wound be amazing. Thankfully it’s not the same shoulder as before.

[Sandman]

Pelletier’s numbers in his 14 minutes so far:

ixG/60: 1.29

XGF%: 80%

CF%: 77%

Small sample size, but dominant numbers, especially in a fourth line role.

[MissTeeks]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1618328888471584769

https://twitter.com/user/status/1618330186000527366

[TheIronMaiden]

I thought he was been great every time he touches the ice. If he keeps it up he will replace Lucic on line 2.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I thought he was been great every time he touches the ice. If he keeps it up he will replace Lucic on line 2.

Yeah that seems like what they are hoping. Some fans want it to be an immediate thing but I like the approach they are taking easing him in.

[MissTeeks]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1618331064900153346

What a guy lol.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Remember, Sutter lies.

Edit - Also, April is technically after the break so maybe he's telling the truth lol

2028 is also after the all-star break.

[Toonage]

He's never coming back

[FanIn80]

I see more "get Looch off the 2nd line" posts. Didn't someone post Huberdeau stats a few days ago, that show he's about a point per game since playing with Looch and woefully under that rate before the switch?

Like, I'm just wondering if maybe people should stop focusing directly on Looch himself and focus more on the overall production of that line.

[Loudog]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

https://twitter.com/user/status/1618331064900153346

What a guy lol.

Would love to see a pic of what these look like haha

[Yeah_Baby]

Yeah, it's not ideal, but I think it's over all been fine.

It's a reality of the roster we have now. I don't really want to break up the other lines as a result.

[Strange Brew]

So after reading Sutter’s quote, it’s almost certain that it has to do with the shoulder that had major surgery. Surprised he didn’t say it was a charleyhorse.

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

I see more "get Looch off the 2nd line" posts. Didn't someone post Huberdeau stats a few days ago, that show he's about a point per game since playing with Looch and woefully under that rate before the switch?

Like, I'm just wondering if maybe people should stop focusing directly on Looch himself and focus more on the overall production of that line.

As most would have predicted the trios numbers are starting to normalize to expected levels after a unsustainable start. Lucic with just 4 points in his past 14 games. Huberdeau with 7 in his past 11.

Huberdeau with/ without Lucic

CF% - 52.57 / 55.99 (-3.42%)
SF% - 51.32 / 55.39 (-4.07%)
GF% - 55 / 65 (-10%)
xGF% - 48.22 / 57.45 (-9.23%)
SCF% - 50.0 / 54.58 (-4.58%)
HDCF% - 42.62% / 57.94% (-15.32%)

There is no real evidence to support that Lucic is helping that line whatsoever and in fact all signs point to him being a real detriment. It's pretty obvious with where his skillset is today that he's not a viable option for that line.

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

I see more "get Looch off the 2nd line" posts. Didn't someone post Huberdeau stats a few days ago, that show he's about a point per game since playing with Looch and woefully under that rate before the switch?

Like, I'm just wondering if maybe people should stop focusing directly on Looch himself and focus more on the overall production of that line.

Meaningless stats. Lucic has killed multiple scoring chances since being put on that line. BTW Kadri was put with Hubes at the same time...probably has more to do with it than lumbering lucic

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Pelletier’s numbers in his 14 minutes so far:

ixG/60: 1.29

XGF%: 80%

CF%: 77%

Small sample size, but dominant numbers, especially in a fourth line role.

I thought he looked fine / pretty good in his first game, but I thought he looked really good in his second game.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

As most would have predicted the trios numbers are starting to normalize to expected levels after a unsustainable start. Lucic with just 4 points in his past 14 games. Huberdeau with 7 in his past 11.

Huberdeau with/ without Lucic

CF% - 52.57 / 55.99 (-3.42%)
SF% - 51.32 / 55.39 (-4.07%)
GF% - 55 / 65 (-10%)
xGF% - 48.22 / 57.45 (-9.23%)
SCF% - 50.0 / 54.58 (-4.58%)
HDCF% - 42.62% / 57.94% (-15.32%)

There is no real evidence to support that Lucic is helping that line whatsoever and in fact all signs point to him being a real detriment. It's pretty obvious with where his skillset is today that he's not a viable option for that line.

The only thing it helped was they went on an on-ice shooting percentage bender for a couple games.

On ice shooting percentage with Lucic: 11.3%

On ice shooting percentage without Lucic: 6.47%

So more a coincidence than any type of causation IMO.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

The only thing it helped was they went on an on-ice shooting percentage bender for a couple games.

On ice shooting percentage with Lucic: 11.3%

On ice shooting percentage without Lucic: 6.47%

So more a coincidence than any type of causation IMO.

Yeah, there is simply no evidence that suggests that Lucic is helping the line. Yes, they had the 3-pt game against the Sharks on their first game together, but beyond that, there is simply nothing on ice that anyone can demonstrate where Lucic has influenced the line in a positive manner

[CactusJack]

We’ll, worst case scenario with Tanev is that he’s already shown he can play with only one arm and still be our best d-man…

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

https://twitter.com/user/status/1618331064900153346

What a guy lol.

Naz has been a great signing

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

As most would have predicted the trios numbers are starting to normalize to expected levels after a unsustainable start. Lucic with just 4 points in his past 14 games. Huberdeau with 7 in his past 11.

Huberdeau with/ without Lucic

CF% - 52.57 / 55.99 (-3.42%)
SF% - 51.32 / 55.39 (-4.07%)
GF% - 55 / 65 (-10%)
xGF% - 48.22 / 57.45 (-9.23%)
SCF% - 50.0 / 54.58 (-4.58%)
HDCF% - 42.62% / 57.94% (-15.32%)

There is no real evidence to support that Lucic is helping that line whatsoever and in fact all signs point to him being a real detriment. It's pretty obvious with where his skillset is today that he's not a viable option for that line.

I don't honestly think anyone has ever thought Lucic is helping that line.

The line was working despite the underlying numbers, but that wasn't likely to last.

To me it was more about keeping lines 1 and 3 together more than anything.

He's soured on Ruzicka, as I thought that was the natural return to the second line after the Lucic experiment petered out. Now maybe Pelletier at some point?