01-24-2023, 01:21 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Coyotes sign Valimaki to 1 year contract extension
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01-24-2023, 01:21 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Nice. Happy for him
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01-24-2023, 01:23 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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Still pisses me off lol
I don't care that he's the 6th defenseman on a bad team..
I still prefer him over Mackey or our other 7th defensemen
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01-24-2023, 01:23 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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The QO for Valimaki was $1.86 million.
Guess he felt he wasn't going to get that so settled for $1 mil
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01-24-2023, 01:27 PM
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Franchise Player
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At $1 mil he'd probably still be a Flame.
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01-24-2023, 01:27 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Trade Mackey for Valimaki.
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01-24-2023, 01:28 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: CALGARY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FBI
Still pisses me off lol
I don't care that he's the 6th defenseman on a bad team..
I still prefer him over Mackey or our other 7th defensemen
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Right? Why not have a first round pick vs Mackey, Desimone, Gilbert, etc
I would be happier saying at least the first round pick is a player for us, despite not living up to the potential of a first round pick vs him doing well elsewhere.
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01-24-2023, 01:34 PM
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First round-bust
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Location: speculating about AHL players
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Good for Juuso. I don't really care about the Calgary ramifications at this point — just happy for him.
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01-24-2023, 01:34 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redmile04
Right? Why not have a first round pick vs Mackey, Desimone, Gilbert, etc
I would be happier saying at least the first round pick is a player for us, despite not living up to the potential of a first round pick vs him doing well elsewhere.
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At this stage, first round pick means nothing. He was behind all of those guys (in the AHL!).
If he can truly turn it around, good on him, but I don't see this signing as any evidence of a "mistake" from the Flames. At worst, it's a "meh".
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01-24-2023, 01:37 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redmile04
Right? Why not have a first round pick vs Mackey, Desimone, Gilbert, etc
I would be happier saying at least the first round pick is a player for us, despite not living up to the potential of a first round pick vs him doing well elsewhere.
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Essentially they didn't choose Mackey, Desimone or Gilbert over Valimaki. They all got sent down, Valimaki was the only one claimed.
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01-24-2023, 01:39 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug
At this stage, first round pick means nothing. He was behind all of those guys (in the AHL!).
If he can truly turn it around, good on him, but I don't see this signing as any evidence of a "mistake" from the Flames. At worst, it's a "meh".
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Agreed. It is a one year extension for almost league minimum on a really weak team. I don't see this as a huge endorsement for Valimaki. It's basically just buying him more time.
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01-24-2023, 01:45 PM
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#12
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Chilliwack, B.C
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Happy for him doesn't make me personally miss him as a Flame at all
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01-24-2023, 01:47 PM
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#13
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redmile04
Right? Why not have a first round pick vs Mackey, Desimone, Gilbert, etc
I would be happier saying at least the first round pick is a player for us, despite not living up to the potential of a first round pick vs him doing well elsewhere.
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$$$$$ he made too much money
Getting a league min contract with one of the worst teams in the league isn't exactly living up to potential. He obviously didn't think he he would be qualified
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01-24-2023, 01:53 PM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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This is a pretty obvious situation to me. Coyotes like the player and wanted to lock him down cheap for another year before his TOI/role increased with Chychrun and Gostisbehere gone. Juuso likes the fit and the coach and wanted stability after having missed so much time early in his career (and knew he wasn't in a spot to command more than his current AAV).
Nothing worth humming and hawing about. The only reasonable response to this news, to me, is to be happy for a player who's still working to get established in the NHL again after terrible injury luck.
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01-24-2023, 01:56 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
Essentially they didn't choose Mackey, Desimone or Gilbert over Valimaki. They all got sent down, Valimaki was the only one claimed.
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They did Mackey didn't they?
Thought they kept Mackey off waivers and put Valimaki on waivers. And TBH based on AHL play last year, and training camp this year that looked like the right call at the time.
To me it reinforces that you don't know what a guy is at the NHL level until you actually play them at the NHL level for a stretch of games.
And also with Mackey he looked better in his NHL time in 20-21 and 21-22 than he has in his 9 games this year. Almost felt like he was nervous and regressed a bit to start this year.
Based on the previous 2 years of sample at the AHL, and training camp Mackey looked like the safer bet. That is clearly wrong at this point.
And the flip side is probably that Valimaki needed that fresh start in a new organization without the pressure and expectation of being a first round pick that the GM was super high on.
Last edited by SuperMatt18; 01-24-2023 at 01:58 PM.
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01-24-2023, 01:58 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redmile04
Right? Why not have a first round pick vs Mackey, Desimone, Gilbert, etc
I would be happier saying at least the first round pick is a player for us, despite not living up to the potential of a first round pick vs him doing well elsewhere.
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I actually don’t mind Gilbert out of that bunch.
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01-24-2023, 02:01 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Good prove-me contract for Juuso.
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01-24-2023, 02:11 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Originally Posted by Goriders
I actually don’t mind Gilbert out of that bunch.
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I don't mind any of them. They're in the mix for the 8th D when you account for Kylington.
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01-24-2023, 02:35 PM
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
They did Mackey didn't they?
Thought they kept Mackey off waivers and put Valimaki on waivers. And TBH based on AHL play last year, and training camp this year that looked like the right call at the time.
To me it reinforces that you don't know what a guy is at the NHL level until you actually play them at the NHL level for a stretch of games.
And also with Mackey he looked better in his NHL time in 20-21 and 21-22 than he has in his 9 games this year. Almost felt like he was nervous and regressed a bit to start this year.
Based on the previous 2 years of sample at the AHL, and training camp Mackey looked like the safer bet. That is clearly wrong at this point.
And the flip side is probably that Valimaki needed that fresh start in a new organization without the pressure and expectation of being a first round pick that the GM was super high on.
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They chose Mackey over Valimaki for his camp for sure.
But since then have exposed every one of them on waivers. (is what I meant)
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01-24-2023, 02:39 PM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Have they waived Mackey? I might've missed that
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