08-02-2020, 09:28 AM
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#341
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by keenan87
Speaking of Rinaldo.. he was kind of quiet last night. I was expecting a few more big hits.
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He had 3 min of ice time
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08-02-2020, 09:31 AM
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#342
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by zamler
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At the end of this clip I’m pretty sure Wheeler intentionally kicks his skate blade towards Tkachuk, clearly attempting to slice open his jugular. What a filthy, disgusting play — I think we should all be relieved Tkachuk’s career wasn’t ended.
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08-02-2020, 09:32 AM
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#343
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Johnhitbox
It’s comments like this that makes me proud to be a flames fan.
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Shouldn’t this guy be on a couch next to Rick Moranis drinking beer?
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08-02-2020, 09:34 AM
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#344
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL
The great takeaway is the Flames absolutely dominated special teams, which seemed to be the entirety of the game.
The not-good takeaway is 5v5, it was similar to last year against the Avs. Had 4 more shots but were badly-beaten in every category.
Need to be much better 5v5 or continue to play the majority of the game on special teams
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That's not entirely accurate.
Well I guess it is as a summary, but not the spirit of the game. The Flames were up in CF% through two periods but score effects played a role in the final frame for sure.
The Jets had the only four high danger chances in the third, compared to four total in the first two.
Five on five the Flames are great defensively, but they need to create more offensively for sure.
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08-02-2020, 09:35 AM
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#345
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Wastedyouth
I'm of the opinion that we, as fans, can be a bit more magnanimous and a little better than the fans we like to trash on.
People in this thread are acting like they and the Flames are the victims here. It's funny. And im just saying, be a good winner. Not a poor one.
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I get what you're trying to say, but all these inaccurate comments from the media paint the Flames as villains and taint the win. It is them who are creating the narrative.
The Flames were the better team last night by a fairly large margin. But very few are giving the Flames any credit. All the talk is about Tkachuk and Giordano.
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08-02-2020, 09:36 AM
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#346
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by tvp2003
It was the penalty where he got blindsided so you know he personally wanted to make them pay. Almost did it himself (hit both posts) but obviously just as happy his teammate could bury it. Give credit to Backlund as well — it was a huge goal to continue the momentum and he absolutely sniped it against the best goalie in the league this year. No small feat.
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A little lost in the aftermath of last night's game is the fact that this was the first "playoff" game in which Backlund and Gaudreau scored since Game 4 in the second round in 2015.
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08-02-2020, 09:36 AM
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#347
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I get what you're trying to say, but all these inaccurate comments from the media paint the Flames as villains and taint the win. It is them who are creating the narrative.
The Flames were the better team last night by a fairly large margin. But very few are giving the Flames any credit. All the talk is about Tkachuk and Giordano.
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This is fine. Let others consistently underestimate us and chalk our success up to luck. They will be unprepared for the truth
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08-02-2020, 09:40 AM
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#348
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First Line Centre
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I understand why Jets fans are upset, and I understand Maurice is lobbying the league on future calls with his comments.
I'm sure I would be upset if the situation were reversed, but this looks like such a nothing play.
My money is on his achilles having torn (not cut).
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08-02-2020, 09:44 AM
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#349
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Infinit47
I understand why Jets fans are upset, and I understand Maurice is lobbying the league on future calls with his comments.
I'm sure I would be upset if the situation were reversed, but this looks like such a nothing play.
My money is on his achilles having torn (not cut).
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I would guess, his injury is a high ankle sprain maybe related to his knee.
Maurice went way over the top with his comments, at that speed there is no way that type of thing was intentional.
Jet's player tried to move, his blade was stuck
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08-02-2020, 09:45 AM
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#350
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
That's not entirely accurate.
Well I guess it is as a summary, but not the spirit of the game. The Flames were up in CF% through two periods but score effects played a role in the final frame for sure.
The Jets had the only four high danger chances in the third, compared to four total in the first two.
Five on five the Flames are great defensively, but they need to create more offensively for sure.
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This sure felt like one of those games where the advanced metrics don't accurately depict what was going on throughout the game. There was hardly any room on the ice at all 5v5, which seems like the reason for the very low number of HD chances for both teams. But the Flames had the puck most of the time, and the Jets were chasing through most of the game.
If anything, I think it shows a really strong strategic effort from two really well matched teams, which is why the game was decided on special teams.
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08-02-2020, 09:46 AM
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#351
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Truculent!
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I get what you're trying to say, but all these inaccurate comments from the media paint the Flames as villains and taint the win. It is them who are creating the narrative.
The Flames were the better team last night by a fairly large margin. But very few are giving the Flames any credit. All the talk is about Tkachuk and Giordano.
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I don't see it tainting the win at all. Why are you letting it affect your opinion of something that was pretty fun and awesome? It's a few talking heads trying to drum up some stories. In the end our team won and theirs didn't. Whatever some goof is saying doesn't reverse that.
Tkachuk is a rat####. But he's our rat####. Enjoy it. Is all I'm saying.
Anyways, that's all I got to say about it!
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08-02-2020, 09:47 AM
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#352
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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The media is trying to spin the Flames into some dirty team but the reality is Eakins attempt to take out Tkachuk's knee was one of the more disgusting plays I've seen in some time. 100% deliberate intent to injure. I hope Maurice takes a good look at that video before beaking off about any Flames players.
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08-02-2020, 09:51 AM
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#353
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Mass_nerder
The hit was going to be a second or two late, so in that respect, it could be viewed as borderline; however, the hit itself would have been fine. Those kind of "late" hits happen 10 times a game though, and it's pretty clear that Scheifele saw it coming, as he tried to steer out of it.
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Players don't typically shove the back of another player's leg with their foot when they're making a check. Looked like Tkachuk was trying to nudge Scheifele off balance as he came in to make the check.
I don't think it was an egregious attempt to injure. But c'mon. If that's a play Neal makes on Monahan, this board wouldn't be shrugging it off as an unfortunate accident.
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Originally Posted by fotze
If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
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08-02-2020, 09:53 AM
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#354
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
I don't think it was an egregious attempt to injure. But c'mon. If that's a play Neal makes on Monahan, this board wouldn't be shrugging it off as an unfortunate accident.
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I don't know about that. I'm pretty positive Ward wouldn't be telling the media what a disgusting play it was after the game. You can go a full season in the NHL and not see an injury happen exactly like that as it's a one in a million play where a player turns away from taking a hit and the other player follows through amounting to chance skate to skate contact on the boards so I have a hard time coming to any conclusions that Tkachuk planned anything other than finishing his check on the play.
Last edited by Erick Estrada; 08-02-2020 at 09:55 AM.
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08-02-2020, 09:59 AM
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#355
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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The fact that it's pretty much just Maurice and Oilers fans mad at Tkachuk is what makes it fun for me.
Pretty telling when most peoples reaction isn't "I hope Mark is okay!" but rather "Derp, Tkachuk bad, hurrrrr"
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08-02-2020, 10:00 AM
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#356
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Did Geoff Ward say anything interesting after the game? Not sure why people are waiting for Treliving to respond. The team does have a coach who should be standing up for his players.
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08-02-2020, 10:02 AM
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#357
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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I don't want Treleving or Ward to say anything, just act like pros to contrast the whining
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08-02-2020, 10:03 AM
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#358
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Pas, MB
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Salty Oilers fans are comparing it to Kassian’s kick and using it to fit their “league is out to get the Oilers” narrative. Hilarious.
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08-02-2020, 10:04 AM
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#359
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Voted for Kodos
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
Speaking of Rinaldo.. he was kind of quiet last night. I was expecting a few more big hits.
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Only 3:10 of ice time. The Flames were basically running three lines all game with Ryan and Reiner getting PK time.
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08-02-2020, 10:07 AM
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#360
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
The media is trying to spin the Flames into some dirty team but the reality is Eakins attempt to take out Tkachuk's knee was one of the more disgusting plays I've seen in some time. 100% deliberate intent to injure. I hope Maurice takes a good look at that video before beaking off about any Flames players.
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Yes, we need a video of this. From the original reply during the game iirc, besides being a bit of blindside, the knee from Eakin was starting to come out a bit. Thankfully MT was close enough to Eakin by that point that there was going to be body on body contact anyways and the knee wasn’t a factor, but the intent of what Eakin was trying to do was clear.
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