Wheel of Time/memory of light question(possible spoiler?)

I'm reading "A Memory of Light" and because it's been such a long time between books, I've forgotten.

What is the deal with Logain and Taim? I can't remember the back stories to them... I know they can both channel, but that's all I remember. Who's the bad guy? And what's going on with all the guys that can channel? I thought the taint was cleared.

[Rathji]

OMG Spoiler Alert!

I am only on book 47 of the Wheel of Time series, and I think that happens in book 84 or 85.

[photon]

Rand created the black tower for all the men who could channel to train them. He appointed Taim to head it and teach the men. The taint is cleansed, so the men aren't getting any more mad.

Then Rand didn't have a lot to do with the black tower other than taking some of the men around with him, but basically left it to itself. There's a lot of innuendo in the previous books that there's something not right going on at the black tower. Lots of hints that Taim isn't behind Rand (Lews Therin basically tries to kill Taim all the time, trying to grasp the power away or before Rand).

Logain was a false dragon who was caught and gentled by the white tower, but then was healed by Nynaeve (so he could channel again). He escaped I think and ended up (with Rand's consent/protection) at the black tower as well as one of the men there.

[DownInFlames]

Originally Posted by photon

The taint is cleansed

Originally Posted by photon

Rand created the black tower for all the men who could channel to train them. He appointed Taim to head it and teach the men. The taint is cleansed, so the men aren't getting any more mad.

Then Rand didn't have a lot to do with the black tower other than taking some of the men around with him, but basically left it to itself. There's a lot of innuendo in the previous books that there's something not right going on at the black tower. Lots of hints that Taim isn't behind Rand (Lews Therin basically tries to kill Taim all the time, trying to grasp the power away or before Rand).

Logain was a false dragon who was caught and gentled by the white tower, but then was healed by Nynaeve (so he could channel again). He escaped I think and ended up (with Rand's consent/protection) at the black tower as well as one of the men there.

So are Taim and Logain themselves? Or were they someone else in another life? Or are they one of the Forsaken?
The Forsaken are another thing that has me confused... They are always dying and then coming back to life with new names.... Who is dead and who is a reincarnation?

[photon]

Originally Posted by Puxlut

So are Taim and Logain themselves? Or were they someone else in another life? Or are they one of the Forsaken?

I can't really answer the question without spoiling the new book, I think I gave enough info to bring you up to the beginning of MoL.

Originally Posted by Puxlut

The Forsaken are another thing that has me confused... They are always dying and then coming back to life with new names.... Who is dead and who is a reincarnation?

That one I can't do off the top of my head, but yeah their souls do seem to get recycled a lot.

I don't think you need to be completely up to date with which forsaken's soul is in which body to understand MoL, it's pretty good at being explicit about that kind of thing.

[JerzeeGirl]

Originally Posted by Puxlut

So are Taim and Logain themselves? Or were they someone else in another life? Or are they one of the Forsaken?
The Forsaken are another thing that has me confused... They are always dying and then coming back to life with new names.... Who is dead and who is a reincarnation?

If you're interested in more details there's an entire WOT wiki available with loads of answers - the page for the Forsaken is here: http://wot.wikia.com/wiki/Forsaken

I won't post more info, you can choose how much of a look you want to have. Have fun!