[Rumour] @ 2016 draft: CGY almost traded Backlund, Wideman, 6th OA to EDM for 4th OA , 2nd rd

[SuperMatt18]

The thing that trade did move you up two spots, and got you a second, but also would have opened up $8.8M in cap space.

Have to think another deal or free agent move to bring in a Center replacement for Backlund would have been in the works too...or even worse case Flames take a run at Lucic instead of Brouwer.

[Geeoff]

Somehow I doubt that we'd be the only trade that Chiarelli didn't lose in Edmonton

[1qqaaz]

I would rather have Tkachuk/Keller than Puljujarvi/Juolevi + Backlund

Flames are lucky that they didn't have to make the trade. But if it had come to it, I would have done it.
The chances of one of Keller/Tkachuk being available at 6 was quite high anyways. Keller went where he was supposed to go.

[chockfullofgoodness]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Yeah I saw that. But as soon as the Oilers knew that Columbus was passing on Puljujarvi they were taking him. They weren't going to move down.

Yeah, makes sense now. During the attempted wheeling and dealing, Tre and Chiarelli were probably assuming Poolparty would be gone at 3.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by chockfullofgoodness

Not sure how much input Burke had as far as the 2016 draft went, but he said about a month ago that had the Flames had the #4 pick that year that they would have taken Puljujarvi. They were having a Sportsnet chat about Chiarelli and how tough it is to be a GM in a Canadian market. Burke said something about how highly touted Puljujarvi was and that "we would have taken him." Did anyone else see that?

He would have had a voice as everyone involved does to varying degrees, but at the very least he would have known the Flames internal player rankings.

So if that's what he said, you can take it to the bank it was true.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I would rather than Tkachuk/Keller than Puljujarvi/Juolevi + Backlund

Flames are lucky that they didn't have to make the trade. But if it had come to it, I would have done it.
The chances of one of Keller/Tkachuk being available at 6 was quite high anyways. Keller went where he was supposed to go.

i'd rather have Tkachuk and Backlund, which is what they ended up with without doing anything...

[Hockey_Ninja]

Backs as an Oiler would've been devastating. He's my favorite current Flame tied with Johnny. Thank god this didn't happen.

[DJones]

Originally Posted by transplant99

He would have had a voice as everyone involved does to varying degrees, but at the very least he would have known the Flames internal player rankings.

So if that's what he said, you can take it to the bank it was true.

And I think almost everyone would have taken him at 4th.

Can't blame the Oilers on that one.

[CedarMeter]

I was listening to Ched when Backs scored the back breaker against the Oilers and Bob said "Backlund has been a thorn in our side for years, something like 31 points in 30 games, and the sad thing is we could have had him, we picked Alex Plante instead". Put a smile on my face.

[chockfullofgoodness]

Originally Posted by DJones

And I think almost everyone would have taken him at 4th.

Can't blame the Oilers on that one.

Every Flames fan was salivating at the chance to get that big-bodied RHS that was hyped to have a chance to score 40 right out of the gate. Thank God that potential bust fell to the Oilers.

[Strange Brew]

Seems unlikely to be true. Of course we never know about the deals that were rejected by other teams/players.

Except for Feaster of course and the Richards and O'Reilly signings.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

The thing that trade did move you up two spots, and got you a second, but also would have opened up $8.8M in cap space.

Have to think another deal or free agent move to bring in a Center replacement for Backlund would have been in the works too...or even worse case Flames take a run at Lucic instead of Brouwer.

The thought of more money with which to chase UFA's is not a pleasant one.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Seems unlikely to be true. Of course we never know about the deals that were rejected by other teams/players.

Except for Feaster of course and the Richards and O'Reilly signings.

Thanks for reminding me of those. Ugh. I was actually excited at the tought of a Tanguay-Richards-Iginla line but that contract would've handicapped us for a while.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by getbak

Moving Wideman would have cleared a lot of cap space and dumped the "Wideman effect" on the Oilers. Getting the Oilers' 2nd rounder would also have given the Flames two picks in the top-6 of the second round that year.

I'd think there's a good chance that Treliving would have leveraged that cap space and the picks to acquire either Bishop or Fleury rather than Elliott.

I think this is the correct answer.

Because the Flames couldn't unload Wideman, their goalie salary was capped at about 3 million.

There weren't a ton of guys that fit that bill, which I think is one of the reasons for the cost to acquire Elliott in the first place.

Would've been a dynamite trade.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by LWcrowfoot

Backlund had two years left, hadn't signed his extension. Oilers were also taking on almost six million in dead weight in Dennis Wideman for a season as well. The second round pick given up by Edmonton was 32nd overall. Flames drafted Tyler Parons and Dillion Dube later in the 2nd at 54 and 56. It's not just moving up two spots, it's a high 2nd and taking on a big dead weight contract. To me the value is tough but fair.

Glad it worked out the way it did but happy Treliving was willing to move for the guy they saw as a potential star. Some of us are only going "no way is this true!" because we ended up with Tkachuk by just drafting him but if we had missed out and this information came out.. we'd be lamenting missing out on him.

That was the last season of Wideman so taking on his contract couldn't have been worth very much to the Flames and their cap situation at the time.

[CalgaryFan1988]

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[LWcrowfoot]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

That was the last season of Wideman so taking on his contract couldn't have been worth very much to the Flames and their cap situation at the time.

Taking on 6 million of dead weight is taking on 6 million of dead weight. Yes, it wasn't two years for 12 million but that contract limits anyone who takes it on. These contracts don't get given away easily. Not saying it was it was the biggest part of the trade but certainly lowers the potential return when you're adding these type of contracts to a trade.

[Canada 02]

All I know is Wideman today is still better than any blueliner the Oilers have on their roster. In fact, they should sign him now!

[keratosis]

Maybe if Feaster was still running the show.

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[dino7c]

sounds like fake news to me