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Old 03-29-2019, 01:37 PM   #122
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This action is likely covered as not being criminal based on Barr’s statement of the Miueller report.
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Oh please. Trump facetiously asked in a public speech for the Russians to "hack" the 30,000 emails that Hillary herself deleted during the middle of an active investigation into her abuse of a private email server. He was making a point about Hillarys blatant corruption, as those 30,000 emails have still never seen the light of day.

The double-standard is breathtaking. I can't even imagine the (rightful) howls of outrage had it been Trump the one actively obstructing Muellers investigation by deleting tens of thousands of emails that had been previously subpoenaed.
Did you just say Hillary blatant corruption in a post admonishing someone for being over zealous against Trump?
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Did you just say Hillary blatant corruption in a post admonishing someone for being over zealous against Trump?
What are they gonna do when she dies? Probably still go after her as we've seen from McCain.
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What is the most likely explanation? Out of all the lies, half truths, trolling, exaggerations and taking credit for everything - that is the one thing to take literally and equate it to treason .. to me that sounds like trolling the media again.
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Did you just say Hillary blatant corruption in a post admonishing someone for being over zealous against Trump?
Her Emails are with Trump's tax returns and medical records, in the room he sat in for his interview with Muller which is in one of the top 10 floors of Trump tower that don't exist. He's great.
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Old 03-29-2019, 02:06 PM   #129
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This action is likely covered as not being criminal based on Barr’s statement of the Miueller report.
Yeah - I was just pointing out the ridiculousness of calling him a "patriot", or even "patriotic" for that matter.
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Oh please. Trump facetiously asked in a public speech for the Russians to "hack" the 30,000 emails that Hillary herself deleted during the middle of an active investigation into her abuse of a private email server. He was making a point about Hillarys blatant corruption, as those 30,000 emails have still never seen the light of day.

The double-standard is breathtaking. I can't even imagine the (rightful) howls of outrage had it been Trump the one actively obstructing Muellers investigation by deleting tens of thousands of emails that had been previously subpoenaed.
Yes, double-standard indeed. Meanwhile, I heard Kushner's still WhatsApp-ing away...
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Old 03-29-2019, 02:32 PM   #132
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Put me in the camp that’s utterly shocked the conservative posters are coming out of the woodwork to proclaim from the mountaintops that this is 100% over and the sitting president is cleared of any and all wrongdoing. Add in some dubious right wing think pieces and some buttery males and this party is really ready to start.

Anyone being realistic about this always knew this was how it would go. Mueller was never going to suggest charges against a sitting president, the concept of “collusion” was a water muddying tactic that worked, and the republicans in the government were always going to protect their brand. The more interesting part of this is watching the rank hypocrisy from his supporters to dismiss all of this as nothing more than basic politics or a left wing witch hunt. Schiff’s response was spot on but it will be ignored by those who need to hear it. Ah well can’t win em all.

Super excited to see how trump handles 2020. My money is on him losing the election and refusing to peacefully give up power. Will be curious to see if the court system allows what will be his blatant power grab to try and invalidate an election actually pass. Seriously interesting times we live in.
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Barr announced today that he expects to be finished reviewing the Mueller report by mid-April, and plans to release it with minimal redactions. Boy, that sounds familiar!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia/u-s-attorney-general-barr-will-release-redacted-copy-of-mueller-report-by-mid-april-idUSKCN1RA2CN

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U.S. Attorney General William Barr plans to issue a redacted copy of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s nearly 400-page investigative report into Russian interference in the 2016 election by mid-April, he said in a letter to lawmakers on Friday. “Everyone will soon be able to read it on their own,” Barr wrote in the letter to the top Democrats and Republicans on the Senate and House Judiciary committees.



He said he is willing to appear before both committees to testify about Mueller’s report on May 1 and May 2.

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He said that while Trump has the right to assert executive privilege on some materials, that “Trump has stated publicly that he intends to defer to me.” Because of that, he said, there are no plans for the Justice Department to submit the report to the White House for a privilege review.
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Old 03-29-2019, 03:15 PM   #134
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The gun lobby announced this week that it will dock its grades for politicians who vote to renew the Violence Against Women Act. The legislation, first passed in 1994, is up for reauthorization this session — augmented by a provision that could give law enforcement officials the power to confiscate guns from men who hurt or menace women.

NRA spokesperson Jennifer Baker told the National Journal that this “red-flag” provision — intended to protect women against gun violence from men who are exhibiting violent or dangerous behaviors — is an unacceptable encroachment on individual gun ownership rights.
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He said that while Trump has the right to assert executive privilege on some materials, that “Trump has stated publicly that he intends to defer to me.” Because of that, he said, there are no plans for the Justice Department to submit the report to the White House for a privilege review.
I intend to make it public, but if I don't it wasn't me, and it wasn't the president, but if he wants to assert executive privilege, he can, and it won't be released. Again, however, that won't be me, or the president. And much of it will be redacted when it is released - how much I can't say - but some of it at least, for these fifteen possible reasons and possibly more.

Sounds like a slam-dunk to be released. Gloating isn't premature at all.

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I intend to make it public, but if I don't it wasn't me, and it wasn't the president, but if he wants to assert executive privilege, he can, and it won't be released. Again, however, that won't be me, or the president. And much of it will be redacted when it is released - how much I can't say - but some of it at least, for these fifteen possible reasons and possibly more.

Sounds like a slam-dunk to be released. Gloating isn't premature at all.

And you accuse me of making straw man arguments lol

Barr specifically stated he will be releasing the report with minimal redactions in a couple of weeks, without submitting it for White House privilege review, and will follow up with hearings in front of both houses of Congress.

Not sure how much more transparent he can be.
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Put me in the camp that’s utterly shocked the conservative posters are coming out of the woodwork to proclaim from the mountaintops that this is 100% over and the sitting president is cleared of any and all wrongdoing. Add in some dubious right wing think pieces and some buttery males and this party is really ready to start.

Anyone being realistic about this always knew this was how it would go. Mueller was never going to suggest charges against a sitting president, the concept of “collusion” was a water muddying tactic that worked, and the republicans in the government were always going to protect their brand. The more interesting part of this is watching the rank hypocrisy from his supporters to dismiss all of this as nothing more than basic politics or a left wing witch hunt. Schiff’s response was spot on but it will be ignored by those who need to hear it. Ah well can’t win em all.

Super excited to see how trump handles 2020. My money is on him losing the election and refusing to peacefully give up power. Will be curious to see if the court system allows what will be his blatant power grab to try and invalidate an election actually pass. Seriously interesting times we live in.
what will he do? Lock himself in the Oval Office with some guns? That is a extraordinary claim, which we all know requires extraordinary evidence.

the rest is just a typical stock answer
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And you accuse me of making straw man arguments lol

Barr specifically stated he will be releasing the report with minimal redactions in a couple of weeks, without submitting it for White House privilege review, and will follow up with hearings in front of both houses of Congress.

Not sure how much more transparent he can be.
Again - I hope you're right and it's released with little redaction.
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I wonder if there is any possible chance Trump might lie, I know presidents usually don't, but I've heard he has lied before, about his taxes maybe and a couple of other things.
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Barr announced today that he expects to be finished reviewing the Mueller report by mid-April, and plans to release it with minimal redactions. Boy, that sounds familiar!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia/u-s-attorney-general-barr-will-release-redacted-copy-of-mueller-report-by-mid-april-idUSKCN1RA2CN
House Democrats say they will subpeona the report with a Tuesday deadline. Failure to comply with a Congressional Subpeona will result in a referral to the DOJ, which is headed by AG William Barr. Gotta love how the American system works.
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