Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > The Off Topic Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-02-2017, 07:33 AM   #1
killer_carlson
Franchise Player
 
killer_carlson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Exp:
Default Las Vegas Shooting: 50+ Dead 500+ Injured at Jason Aldean Concert

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/las...ter/index.html

CNN Reporting this as the worst mass shooting in US History

The Shooter (very difficult footage to watch):
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/las...rnd/index.html


Trump's Tweets in Response
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-veg...s-condolences/

CBS Live News Report from last night
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-veg...s-condolences/

Jason Aldean's Report
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-veg...yond-horrific/
__________________
"OOOOOOHHHHHHH those Russians" - Boney M
killer_carlson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2017, 07:36 AM   #2
killer_carlson
Franchise Player
 
killer_carlson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Exp:
Default

Pretty intense video from this guy's twitter feed.

https://twitter.com/austinnolson?ref...ting-1.4316121
__________________
"OOOOOOHHHHHHH those Russians" - Boney M
killer_carlson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2017, 07:37 AM   #3
Resolute 14
In the Sin Bin
 
Resolute 14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Exp:
Default

I'm honestly surprised Trump found time, despite his busy golf schedule, to rant about something other than minorities or women.
Resolute 14 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Resolute 14 For This Useful Post:
Old 10-02-2017, 07:40 AM   #4
calgaryblood
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
Exp:
Default

Such a tragedy. This world makes no sense to me at times.

Whether it turns out to be Islamic terrorism or whatever else doesn't really matter, this is terrorism and I've yet to see anyone call it that because his name is Stephen.
calgaryblood is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2017, 07:41 AM   #5
Ducay
Franchise Player
 
Ducay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14 View Post
I'm honestly surprised Trump found time, despite his busy golf schedule, to rant about something other than minorities or women.
Jesus christ. This has nothing to do with Trump; there are over 400 people that got shot here, give the schtick a break.


From all reports in so far, guy had no real history or political/religious affiliations. I doubt it, but most people close to him are saying it is a "he must have just snapped" type situation.....but given the amount of planning involved, I'm pretty hesitant to believe thats really the case.
Ducay is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 12 Users Say Thank You to Ducay For This Useful Post:
Old 10-02-2017, 07:42 AM   #6
simmer2
Franchise Player
 
simmer2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14 View Post
I'm honestly surprised Trump found time, despite his busy golf schedule, to rant about something other than minorities or women.
Seriously? First post outside of news postings in an absolutely disgusting event and it's about Trump?
simmer2 is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following 13 Users Say Thank You to simmer2 For This Useful Post:
Old 10-02-2017, 07:54 AM   #7
flylock shox
1 millionth post winnar!
 
flylock shox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Now world wide!
Exp:
Default

Watching NBC this AM they were talking about this event and how much planning it must have taken.

It seems to me that with Nevada's gun laws you could walk right into that hotel with a machine gun and all the ammo you want, then do something like this for no better reason than the concert was keeping you up past your bedtime.
flylock shox is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to flylock shox For This Useful Post:
Old 10-02-2017, 07:58 AM   #8
Hockeyguy15
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by calgaryblood View Post
Such a tragedy. This world makes no sense to me at times.

Whether it turns out to be Islamic terrorism or whatever else doesn't really matter, this is terrorism and I've yet to see anyone call it that because his name is Stephen.
Pretty sure it's some lone old white guy that did it.
Hockeyguy15 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2017, 07:59 AM   #9
Senator Clay Davis
Franchise Player
 
Senator Clay Davis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
Exp:
Default

More than 10 weapons found in the hotel room, probably thousands of rounds of ammo. Gun control might help a little, but to me America is too far gone with its addiction to violence.
__________________
"Think I'm gonna be the scapegoat for the whole damn machine? Sheeee......."

Last edited by Senator Clay Davis; 10-02-2017 at 08:06 AM.
Senator Clay Davis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2017, 08:01 AM   #10
nik-
Franchise Player
 
nik-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by calgaryblood View Post
Such a tragedy. This world makes no sense to me at times.

Whether it turns out to be Islamic terrorism or whatever else doesn't really matter, this is terrorism and I've yet to see anyone call it that because his name is Stephen.
Are you going to be alright? It's important that we worry about you in a moment like this.
nik- is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to nik- For This Useful Post:
Old 10-02-2017, 08:02 AM   #11
Ducay
Franchise Player
 
Ducay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by flylock shox View Post
It seems to me that with Nevada's gun laws you could walk right into that hotel with a machine gun and all the ammo you want, then do something like this for no better reason than the concert was keeping you up past your bedtime.
Submachine guns and automatic weapons are illegal in Nevada, just as they are pretty much everywhere.
Ducay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2017, 08:02 AM   #12
transplant99
Fearmongerer
 
transplant99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Stephen Paddock was “known to” Las Vegas Police before he opened fire from the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino in Las Vegas late Sunday night and killed at least 50 people who were attending the Route 91 Harvest Festival. However, the 64-year-old did not have any major offenses on his criminal record. He did have a minor traffic citation and also sued a casino in 2014. The motive for the shooting remains unknown, and it’s believed that he acted alone.

Las Vegas Police Undersheriff Kevin McMahill told CNN that Paddock was found in a Mandalay Bay hotel room with at least eight weapons, including long rifles. Paddock fired from the 32nd floor. NBC News reports that the shooting is not linked to international terrorism.

“He was shot, but I cannot tell you that it was the police that shot him,” McMahill told CNN. “He may have self-inflicted that gunshot wound. Those details are still emerging throughout our investigation.”
http://heavy.com/news/2017/10/stephe...ecord-lawsuit/
__________________
transplant99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2017, 08:03 AM   #13
JohnnyB
Franchise Player
 
JohnnyB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Shanghai
Exp:
Default

This is just unbelievably horrifying. I really don't know what else to say about it. It's just tragic.
__________________

"If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?"
JohnnyB is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to JohnnyB For This Useful Post:
Old 10-02-2017, 08:04 AM   #14
CorsiHockeyLeague
Franchise Player
 
CorsiHockeyLeague's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by calgaryblood View Post
Whether it turns out to be Islamic terrorism or whatever else doesn't really matter, this is terrorism and I've yet to see anyone call it that because his name is Stephen.
First of all, there's no reason to think the shooter was Muslim.

Second, basic definitions of words: an attack is not terrorism unless it is a politically or ideologically motivated. We don't have the facts. Please keep your hobby horse in the stable at least until we have some basic information (which it seems may take a while given that the perp is dead and according to police gave no indication of why he did it).
__________________
"The great promise of the Internet was that more information would automatically yield better decisions. The great disappointment is that more information actually yields more possibilities to confirm what you already believed anyway." - Brian Eno
CorsiHockeyLeague is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to CorsiHockeyLeague For This Useful Post:
Old 10-02-2017, 08:06 AM   #15
Resolute 14
In the Sin Bin
 
Resolute 14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by simmer2 View Post
Seriously? First post outside of news postings in an absolutely disgusting event and it's about Trump?
I'll make my second about this guy being another NRA hero exercising his second amendment rights and fighting for "freedom" by slaughtering concert goers.

Like it or not, the political aspect of these events are relevant. lndeed, Killer Carlson - correctly - included Trump's empty tweet in his op summary.
Resolute 14 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Resolute 14 For This Useful Post:
Old 10-02-2017, 08:11 AM   #16
Senator Clay Davis
Franchise Player
 
Senator Clay Davis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ducay View Post
Submachine guns and automatic weapons are illegal in Nevada, just as they are pretty much everywhere.
Possessing machine guns/automatic weapons is legal in Nevada if they are registered. It's why you can shoot an AK at the ranges down there.
__________________
"Think I'm gonna be the scapegoat for the whole damn machine? Sheeee......."
Senator Clay Davis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2017, 08:16 AM   #17
calgaryblood
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague View Post
First of all, there's no reason to think the shooter was Muslim.

Second, basic definitions of words: an attack is not terrorism unless it is a politically or ideologically motivated. We don't have the facts. Please keep your hobby horse in the stable at least until we have some basic information (which it seems may take a while given that the perp is dead and according to police gave no indication of why he did it).
Nevada law disagrees with you.

This is terrorism.


"The state's statute says an “act of terrorism means any act that involves the use or attempted use of sabotage, coercion or violence which is intended to cause great bodily harm or death to the general population”.
calgaryblood is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2017, 08:18 AM   #18
flylock shox
1 millionth post winnar!
 
flylock shox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Now world wide!
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ducay View Post
Submachine guns and automatic weapons are illegal in Nevada, just as they are pretty much everywhere.
You're quite right re: automatic weapons. My use of the term machine gun was overbroad.

That said, nothing to stop a person checking in with their assault weapons and deciding to fire on people on a whim. Some of those guns can be modified to fire automatically too, as I understand it. And, it seems, so long as you're okay with it being 30 years old, some proper machine guns are legal too.

Either way, if you have the means, I don't think this necessarily requires a ton of sophisticated planning.
flylock shox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2017, 08:19 AM   #19
Nyah
First Line Centre
 
Nyah's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: The Kilt & Caber
Exp:
Default

400+ injured? It has to be absolute chaos in area hospitals right now. Just unbelievable.
Nyah is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Nyah For This Useful Post:
Old 10-02-2017, 08:19 AM   #20
White Out 403
Franchise Player
 
White Out 403's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Breton Island
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by calgaryblood View Post
Nevada law disagrees with you.

This is terrorism.


"The state's statute says an “act of terrorism means any act that involves the use or attempted use of sabotage, coercion or violence which is intended to cause great bodily harm or death to the general population”.
Pretty classy of you to swoop in on this tragedy to try and score political/debate points.
White Out 403 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:21 AM.

Calgary Flames
2023-24




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021