Neighbors dog droppings

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

If this thread has taught me anything you should probably call child services and tell them you’re worried about the children’s welfare in that situation. Sometimes you have to bend the truth to get what you want.

A dog barking all day is breaking the bylaw prohibiting dogs from barking all day. It's also reasonable to be concerned for a dog's welfare because they're barking all day while also being annoyed by the noise. When calling bylaw and highlighting your concern above your annoyance, you're not being dishonest and you're not crying wolf. Either way, the infraction is the barking and that's the basis of the complaint.

[nik-]

Yeah, see this is your schtick right here.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by stampsx2

Because people will go to work and their dog will bark all day everyday. If a kid was crying bloody murder at 10pm at night everytime it saw another dog walk by i’m sure people would have an issue with it.

In the Pandemic World we live in where lots of people are forced to work from home, your neighbour leaving and their dog barking all day is basically a War Crime and/or demands 'Pistols at Dawn.'

We no longer abide civil conflict resolution!

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by stampsx2

He’d make a great bylaw officer for dog complaints.

I would. I should moonlight doing that. Hell, I'll do it for free. I'd at least care and I'd at least recognize how disruptive barking is.

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by Sliver

BTW, this is a pretty poor attitude. I'm not a "Karen" for expecting laws to be upheld. Entitled is thinking your dog can bark and ####, thus disturbing people, free of consequence. There's nothing entitled about expecting bylaw to enforce bylaws. Lack of staffing doesn't make me a Karen. What's the point of the public being able to call bylaw with legitimate problems if the call centre agents just roll their eyes at our expectation that they'll assist? I don't understand your perspective here.

Ah, but you AREN'T calling with a legitimate concern. Your concern is the dog barking or the accumulation of dog crap, both of which are valid concerns. However, you are calling and lying about being concerned about the animals welfare in an attempt to change the response time.

THAT is what makes this an entitled Karen post. That you can't see that is a/the problem.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by nik-

Yeah, see this is your schtick right here.

Really? So this is a gimmick? A comic routine?

A. It's not even funny.

B. Is it so hard to imagine somebody is annoyed at dog #### and dog barking?

You have to be kidding me.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Sliver

A dog barking all day is breaking the bylaw prohibiting dogs from barking all day. It's also reasonable to be concerned for a dog's welfare because they're barking all day while also being annoyed by the noise. When calling bylaw and highlighting your concern above your annoyance, you're not being dishonest and you're not crying wolf. Either way, the infraction is the barking and that's the basis of the complaint.

But it doesn't even work. Trust me, someone called about our neighbors dog barking, the neighbor got one letter about six months ago about the barking and that it is fineable by the bylaws. Six months later and the dog still barks and they haven't received a single fine.

Dog bylaws are likely DFL on the priority list for bylaw cops, and deservedly so.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by WhiteTiger

Ah, but you AREN'T calling with a legitimate concern. Your concern is the dog barking or the accumulation of dog crap, both of which are valid concerns. However, you are calling and lying about being concerned about the animals welfare in an attempt to change the response time.

THAT is what makes this an entitled Karen post. That you can't see that is a/the problem.

The problem is ACTUALLY that bylaw won't respond in a reasonable time if at all to address the bylaw that is being broken on its own merit. You need to frame it in a way that will get a response. Entitlement has nothing to do with it. You honestly have misunderstood what a Karen is and you don't seem to understand the definition of the word 'entitlement'.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Really? So this is a gimmick? A comic routine?

A. It's not even funny.

B. Is it so hard to imagine somebody is annoyed at dog #### and dog barking?

You have to be kidding me.

We know.

[zamler]

My experience calling the city is very different. There was a dog a few houses down that was left in a cage all day every day, poor thing barked and not in a way dogs bark when being protective. The dog was distressed and wanted out.

Don't know exactly what was done but the next day the dog was not in the cage. Person still owns the dog I see it being walked all the time.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

But it doesn't even work. Trust me, someone called about our neighbors dog barking, the neighbor got one letter about six months ago about the barking and that it is fineable by the bylaws. Six months later and the dog still barks and they haven't received a single fine.

Dog bylaws are likely DFL on the priority list for bylaw cops, and deservedly so.

I know. It should work with a phone call, but just look at WhiteTiger here. He's the kind of guy answering the phone to your complaints. You're a "Karen" and "entitled" for wanting them to enforce the bylaws. It's absurd.

You have to keep the log for 30 days and be prepared to go to court. It's the only way to get action. Believe me. I've done it.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Sliver

The problem is ACTUALLY that bylaw won't respond in a reasonable time if at all to address the bylaw that is being broken on its own merit. You need to frame it in a way that will get a response. Entitlement has nothing to do with it. You honestly have misunderstood what a Karen is and you don't seem to understand the definition of the word 'entitlement'.

Filling a false report is a crime so I admire your dedication to the hustle.

[81MC]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Really? So this is a gimmick? A comic routine?

A. It's not even funny.

B. Is it so hard to imagine somebody is annoyed at dog #### and dog barking?

You have to be kidding me.

I think it’s just the line between ‘one bark is illegal’ and ‘barking all day’.

Yeah, if your dog is literally barking all day, you gotta do something about it. Unfortunately that’s not easy to do if the dog has already developed that behaviour.

But if your neighbours dog barks like a dog, there’s gotta be some give and take.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by zamler

My experience calling the city is very different. There was a dog a few houses down that was left in a cage all day every day, poor thing barked and not in a way dogs bark when being protective. The dog was distressed and wanted out.

Don't know exactly what was done but the next day the dog was not in the cage. Person still owns the dog I see it being walked all the time.

lol, this is exactly my point.

Dog barking all day is bothering you? You're a Karen and Entitled.

Dog barking all day and you're worried about the dog? We're on our way!

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Sliver

The problem is ACTUALLY that bylaw won't respond in a reasonable time if at all to address the bylaw that is being broken on its own merit. You need to frame it in a way that will get a response. Entitlement has nothing to do with it. You honestly have misunderstood what a Karen is and you don't seem to understand the definition of the word 'entitlement'.

Bro call 911

[Locke]

Originally Posted by zamler

My experience calling the city is very different. There was a dog a few houses down that was left in a cage all day every day, poor thing barked and not in a way dogs bark when being protective. The dog was distressed and wanted out.

Don't know exactly what was done but the next day the dog was not in the cage. Person still owns the dog I see it being walked all the time.

That is just bad ownership.

It sucks leaving your dog caged all day. You only do it a few times to crate train them.

We crate trained our puppy and then now I just take him to work with me everyday or my wife is working from home.

All that training....wasted. Thanks COVID...

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by 81MC

I think it’s just the line between ‘one bark is illegal’ and ‘barking all day’.

Yeah, if your dog is literally barking all day, you gotta do something about it. Unfortunately that’s not easy to do if the dog has already developed that behaviour.

But if your neighbours dog barks like a dog, there’s gotta be some give and take.

Yes, totally fair. I wouldn't call on one bark...my point was just that barking is illegal. A bark here and there before 10pm and after 8am is totally a normal neigbourhood sound and not something that would bother me one bit.

[Nancy]

Originally Posted by 81MC

Neighbour kids screaming bloody murder, leaving their toys and #### all over the sidewalk and Boulevard? Okay.
Neighbour dog barks? Oh fuuucccckkkkk no.

There was an interesting show on dogs and wolves on CBC Radio yesterday. Apparently, humans have the same psychological response to the sound of dogs barking as they do to the sounds of babies crying.

At least with babies, you know they will eventually grow out of it. We are surrounded on all sides by neighbors with small, barky dogs. They bark at me when I go in my back yard. They bark at each other. They bark even more when my neighbor starts yelling at his dog to shut up. That's usually the breaking point for me, I just give up and go back inside.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Filling a false report is a crime so I admire your dedication to the hustle.

Am I taking crazy pills here or something?

Read. My. Fataing. Posts.

There's no false report. It's illegal for dogs to bark. The complaint is dogs are barking. Nothing false there.

Dogs barking annoys me. I'll leave that out.

If a dog barks all day, there could be something wrong. I'll leave that in.

It's all true.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by nik-

We know.

It's not supposed to be!

Should I just go around to everyone writing a serious post and say, 'that's not funny; give up the schtick?'

This is so dumb.