Trump didn’t “do” anything to the “ailing person with no money.”
Trump didn’t make the donors give money. He didn’t hand them a laptop and hold a gun to their head and tell them to hit the donate button.
The donors voluntarily decided on their own to give.
That they failed to read through the fine print, or double check what they were donating and doing, or look carefully at the website isn’t Trump’s fault.
It is the fault of the idiot that decided to donate.
And, honestly, it is rather fitting for them. They fail to do the due diligence, on both the candidate and their website and on the donation itself, and get burned as a result. Oh well.
Besides, don’t a lot of Trump voters think that there should be less government regulation? Now they get to experience what that really means.
$500 sure, I'd agree. The fact that they buried in fine print that it was reoccurring, the fact they didn't explicitly tell them, the fact that it's nonsensical to belive a political donation would be reoccurring weekly... means that everything above $500 I feel bad for.
Yes he was a rube that got conned due to his lack of critical thinking of $500, that is his own fault. The rest would be fraud in a modern country with a reasonable legal system.
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Trump didn’t “do” anything to the “ailing person with no money.”
Trump didn’t make the donors give money. He didn’t hand them a laptop and hold a gun to their head and tell them to hit the donate button.
The donors voluntarily decided on their own to give.
That they failed to read through the fine print, or double check what they were donating and doing, or look carefully at the website isn’t Trump’s fault.
It is the fault of the idiot that decided to donate.
And, honestly, it is rather fitting for them. They fail to do the due diligence, on both the candidate and their website and on the donation itself, and get burned as a result. Oh well.
Besides, don’t a lot of Trump voters think that there should be less government regulation? Now they get to experience what that really means.
Are you pretty much saying that deceit is always ok? That there's nothing wrong with it, ever? That's it's always the fault of the person who got conned for failing to do due diligence? That nothing can ever be considered fraud as long as "it's in the fine print"?
If there's some nuance I'm missing here, please clarify it for me.
I'd like to think that life is not simply a hoodwinking competition. Sadly, in a lot of ways it is, but we have to resist the temptation of letting our society slide completely in that direction.
Are you pretty much saying that deceit is always ok? That there's nothing wrong with it, ever? That's it's always the fault of the person who got conned for failing to do due diligence? That nothing can ever be considered fraud as long as "it's in the fine print"?
If there's some nuance I'm missing here, please clarify it for me.
I'd like to think that life is not simply a hoodwinking competition. Sadly, in a lot of ways it is, but we have to resist the temptation of letting our society slide completely in that direction.
A bright yellow box isn’t fine print and isn’t deceitful. And expecting people to read and understand what they are doing is not a particularly high bar.
Those boxes and the text in them can look pretty small when looking on an iPhone screen. Anyone not paying super close attention could have mistaken those messages as routine confirmation messages for the initial donation to go through. Unclicking them could have been a challenge for some.
And let's not forget, Trump went on to hoodwink people out of more money after the election, asking them to fund his court battles but not telling them that he was pocketing the bulk of the money, while only a fraction of the donations actually went to the court challenges.
Those boxes and the text in them can look pretty small when looking on an iPhone screen. Anyone not paying super close attention could have mistaken those messages as routine confirmation messages for the initial donation to go through. Unclicking them could have been a challenge for some.
And let's not forget, Trump went on to hoodwink people out of more money after the election, asking them to fund his court battles but not telling them that he was pocketing the bulk of the money, while only a fraction of the donations actually went to the court challenges.
It’s funny that a lot of those donations went to cover the refunds to people from the ongoing and double dipping donations. That article references over 50 million needing to be refunded.
It all starts with the money in US politics, it's just insane. A candidate for Senator/House spends millions on a campaign to get into the Congress to make millions. It's corrupt across the board.
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The worst part of the vast majority of people who unwittingly got bilked out of additional campaign contributions is you know that they voted for Trump anyway.
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Flooded the boxes with text so people don't read the fine print in the yellow box.
Attention was on the campaign and not a reoccurring deduction.
Additionally, the fact the boxes are pre-checked is ludicrous.
Now, in the spirit of fairness it's within the bounds of the law in the US.
Imagine booking a plane ticket, having Air Canada or WestJet precheck two checked bags, which would be deducted off your credit card a week after purchasing the ticket. So you only see the initial ticket charge. Then find out if you didn't want to book the same trip every month, you'd have had to have unchecked a box about SkyTrax ratings of how great the airline in.
Now, if you book basic a window pops up informing you about additional charges and options for different fares.
In Canada companies have to go out of their way to ensure you don't get bilked.
The fact the victims are getting their money back is a good thing and demonstrates that what the campaigns did was unethical.
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A bright yellow box isn’t fine print and isn’t deceitful. And expecting people to read and understand what they are doing is not a particularly high bar.
Sometimes, it really is okay to blame the victim.
I'm with illiterate on this one, right wingers should know by now they are all just rubes to be fleeced by the rich and powerful, useful idiots that have nothing but can easily be persuaded their interests lie with with hedge fund managers and billionaires that wouldnt piss on them if they were on fire becuase they are so stupid and deluded that they have a piece of the pie and 'socialism' is evil.
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Can we stop talking about Trump already. I realize some of you desperately need him in your life but I'm guessing most of us would rather just not hear about him anymore.
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Can we stop talking about Trump already. I realize some of you desperately need him in your life but I'm guessing most of us would rather just not hear about him anymore.
I completely understand what you're saying after the last 4 years, but the reality is that he's still the guy that most Republicans support. Any American politics discussion will include him and not because people need him in their lives. The clip below covers this topic.
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