Ongoing US Mass Shooting Thread 2

[Tsawwassen]

There are now 13 fatalities in the Thousand Oaks shooting including the shooter and a Ventura County Sergeant. The Sheriff has reported that there is blood everywhere. So sad.

[DuffMan]

Thoughts and prayers would fix the gun problem

[devo22]

if only those barkeepers were armed.

[oldschoolcalgary]

geezus christ...

what the F is wrong with you america?!

[devo22]

"the deadliest shooting in the country in 12 days" - CNN

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[DownInFlames]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1060462503057113088

This is crazy. If I lived through two mass shootings I don’t think I’d ever leave the house again.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by devo22

if only those barkeepers were armed.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1060529576437338113

[devo22]

^ lol, like clockwork.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by devo22

"the deadliest shooting in the country in 12 days" - CNN

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What a country

[Robo]

Dammit I hate seeing this thread bumped

[socalwingfan]

This one hits close to home - we are about 20 minutes away from Thousand Oaks. Goddamn I wish they would do something about high capacity clips in this country - at least it would be a start

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by socalwingfan

This one hits close to home - we are about 20 minutes away from Thousand Oaks. Goddamn I wish they would do something about high capacity clips in this country - at least it would be a start

I know how you feel, but change happens slowly, and you have to believe people really are working on it.

God willing, we'll have those high capacity clips in the hands of the people who need them before this happens again.

[OMG!WTF!]

California definitely has a high capacity magazine law. And it is a start. You can pretty much correlate the states with 5 star gun law ratings from the NRA with the states that have the most gun crime.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by socalwingfan

Goddamn I wish they would do something about high capacity clips in this country - at least it would be a start

NRA refers to the AR-15 as "Americas Rifle"

Aurora: AR-15
Orlando: Sig Sauer MCX
Parkland: AR-15
Las Vegas: AR-15
Sandy Hook: AR-15
Texas Church: AR-15
San Bernardino: AR-15
Waffle House: AR-15
Santa Fe High School: AR-15 or shotgun and a .38-caliber revolver, depending on who you believe.

[killer_carlson]

Watching the press conference by the sheriff

Weapon appears to be a .45 handgun. It had an extended magazine.

Shooter known to police and had mental health issues. Was a former marine as recent as 2013. 28 years old. Possible ptsd. Had been checked out and cleared by mental health officials

Sherriff - who is doing a terrific job at the press conference BTW - retires tomorrow.

Security guard was the first or one of the first killed. 6 off duty police in the bar. One parent reports that her daughter had the off duty cop stand in front of her to protect her, likely saving her life. So off duty cops were standing tall in the crisis.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I mean legislation will help, but everyone who currently has high capacity mags will of course be able to sell them on the black market. Considering we know the gun nuts accumulate weapons and ammo as if they single handily will have to take down the tyrannical government, that's probably a massive black market. America has so very much to do for this to not be the norm.

[Parallex]

America is determined to destroy itself isn't it... it's sad watching this kind of slow suicide of a nation.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1060541270052032512

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by socalwingfan

This one hits close to home - we are about 20 minutes away from Thousand Oaks. Goddamn I wish they would do something about high capacity clips in this country - at least it would be a start

California is a state with restrictions on magazine capacity.



Also, and this is a pet peeve when discussing this issue, please acknowledge the difference between a clip and a magazine, as it can cloud the issue. Accuracy helps when talking to the NRA types, as it at least shows you understand guns and ammo. The clip is a device used to store ammunition so it can be quickly loaded into a magazine or rifle, depending on the feed mechanism. The magazine is a device used to hold rounds (bullets) and acts as a feeding mechanism into the weapon. You can buy ammunition on a stripper clip that makes loading your magazine much quicker and easier, but you carry loaded magazines which makes reloading a quick process.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

Weapon appears to be a .45 handgun. It had an extended magazine.

A bit of a red herring. Most .45s have a capacity of 7-8 rounds, depending on manufacturer. The extended mags that are concealable offer a capacity of 9-10 rounds. So the extended magazine in this situation is adding two extra rounds. Should also note, that by California law the magazine in this instance, while being considered large capacity, is legal as it does not exceed 10 rounds to make it a prohibited magazine.

[Envitro]

Yes what New Era said, and California has some of the strictest laws in the entire country with regards to firearms.