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Old 02-14-2020, 09:52 AM   #4741
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When people get suckered into voting narrow wedge issues you end up here. The liberals are too cowardly to confront this, I can see it dragging on for a while.
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Old 02-14-2020, 09:55 AM   #4742
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Good god, our federal infrastructure is grinding to a halt and all these guys want to do is call a meeting?

How is this not a federal offence, punishable by jail time? Can I go sit on a railway track if I want to renegotiate my taxes?

I think the complication is that protesting is a protected activity in the charter of rights. It's more important than some of our existing laws that may be used to cut people off of their right to protest. For example disturbing the peace because is technically a gathering of more than 3 noisy people. However we always allow larger groups in the name of freedom of association, expression/speech.



Obviously these protestors are breaking the law, many laws. But we've determined that cops aren't really the ones to decide which law is important enough to trump the right to protest. So we have to go ask a judge what is fair and get an injunction allowing cops to do their thing.
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Old 02-14-2020, 09:57 AM   #4743
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How much power do the provinces have in terms of forcing the RCMP to do something?

What about provinces with a provincial police force?
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Old 02-14-2020, 10:07 AM   #4744
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What a fantastic opportunity this rail disruption is for environmentalists to further their cause.
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Old 02-14-2020, 10:08 AM   #4745
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How much power do the provinces have in terms of forcing the RCMP to do something?

What about provinces with a provincial police force?

I don't think you have to really force the RCMP to do something. Once they have what they consider appropriate authority they seem more than happy to go arrest people. But they're not going to jump in without knowing they're going to have some legal backing. BUt again, the government doesn't force law enforcement except through the court system which is what they're doing.
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Old 02-14-2020, 10:08 AM   #4746
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When people get suckered into voting narrow wedge issues you end up here. The liberals are too cowardly to confront this, I can see it dragging on for a while.
In Canada we fight for what’s right by politely asking law breakers to stop. Good thing it’s not 1939.
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Old 02-14-2020, 10:11 AM   #4747
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There's multiple court injunctions, that aren't being enforced. It seems plain to me someone is telling the RCMP to stand down.
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Old 02-14-2020, 10:18 AM   #4748
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There's multiple court injunctions, that aren't being enforced. It seems plain to me someone is telling the RCMP to stand down.

I'm not able to find any info on that. Do you have a link or anything? I'd be curious to know what injunctions aren't being enforced. That would suck for sure.
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Old 02-14-2020, 10:20 AM   #4749
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Do you self-identify as a visible minority? /s

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I don't think that matters, there are a lot of protesters in these crowds that don't look like visible minorities unless Woke is now a minority.
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Old 02-14-2020, 10:22 AM   #4750
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There's multiple court injunctions, that aren't being enforced. It seems plain to me someone is telling the RCMP to stand down.

The head of the RCMP is pretty much a political appointee in this case, the Trudeau government made a great show of it.
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Old 02-14-2020, 10:42 AM   #4751
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There's multiple court injunctions, that aren't being enforced. It seems plain to me someone is telling the RCMP to stand down.
That is why I'm asking. If the provinces can get the courts to enforce the ruling from a provincial side the Feds might not be able to stop the RCMP.
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Old 02-14-2020, 10:59 AM   #4752
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https://torontosun.com/news/national...down-continues


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The closure of CN’s operations in eastern Canada could lead to fuel shortages, warns a leading energy expert.


Canadians for Affordable Energy president Dan McTeague says we could start seeing severe shortages in both gasoline and heating fuel by Wednesday if the shutdown continues.


“Most of the propane that we have in the province isn’t pipelined — it’s actually railed and then trucked,” he said.
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So can pro-pipeline groups establish similar blockades of the rail lines in support of the First Nations that signed agreements with the proposed pipeline?
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Old 02-14-2020, 11:10 AM   #4754
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So can pro-pipeline groups establish similar blockades of the rail lines in support of the First Nations that signed agreements with the proposed pipeline?
The same thing crossed my mind. This seems to be a pretty effective tactic, and hurts specifically the provinces who are anti-pipeline.
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So can pro-pipeline groups establish similar blockades of the rail lines in support of the First Nations that signed agreements with the proposed pipeline?

But that would be racist and non-woke and culturally insensitive
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Old 02-14-2020, 11:19 AM   #4756
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I know it's really wrong to think this way, but I can't help it. I hope that during the fuel shortage this causes in Eastern Canada, the East gets a deep freeze and an oil spill from a Saudi tanker. I want them to feel the weight of their stupidity in a monumental way.
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Original Trudeau, love him or hate him, he actually had balls. How would Justin have dealt with the FLQ? Give them 10 million dollars as appeasement while breaking the laws of the country?


https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/no-q...ered-1.4811999

Pierre Trudeau: Just Watch Me

Justin Trudeau: "Getting that balance right and wrapping it up in the path forward ... is really important."

Ontario and Quebec voted for this, and they will likely see some significant impact. Let them sink for once, they voted for this weak and incompetent leader.
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Old 02-14-2020, 11:23 AM   #4758
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Anyone know where I can get some "Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark" bumper stickers?
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If there is any good that comes out of this whole affair, it should make Canadians more aware of how interdependent we are as a nation...something that has been sadly lacking.
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Old 02-14-2020, 11:30 AM   #4760
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Too bad there wasn't a counter-protest where all access roads in and out of the Wet'suwet'en territory are blocked, so no one could get in or out. We'll see how long they would last once supplies started running out. Use their strategy against them.
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