2019/2020 Trade Speculation and Rumors 2.0

[Nelson]

This feels like the year Tre traded Hamilton. I bet it happens.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Nelson

This feels like the year Tre traded Hamilton. I bet it happens.

Except Hamilton wanted out and Gaudreau wants to stay.

But I do take your point. I think it’s 50/50. If Treliving gets the return he wants, he’ll move him.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I want stuff to happen.

But, I'm scared of the stuff that might happen.

I'm more scared of nothing happening.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I have no doubt BT will listen on Gaudreau, I imagine he will listen on anyone not named Tkachuk but Friedman has reported before that the Flames are listening on Gaudreau but not shopping him. I think that is the reality here, if someone makes an offer BT thinks improves the team and he gets value he will do a deal but otherwise he will keep him. I have already said personally I think trading Gaudreau is the right move now that Ward is back because he can't play in that system effectively. They can't sell cheap though. What that guy said about the Flames wanting to trade him for anything good and that they are shopping him around is b.s imo.

I think that’s a fine line on a guy like Gaudreau because the second it’s out that you’re “willing to listen” you might as well just be shopping him because every team will reach out.

They key is what you said though. They just can’t sell cheap. They might be shopping him, but no way Treliving just settles for “anything good”

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

I'm more scared of nothing happening.

Not a chance BT returns the same roster...like zero.

UFA's alone dictate that. But IMO there will be a deal or 5 made as well. He always does the bulk of his work in the off season...which starts in about a week.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

I'm more scared of nothing happening.

I still have faith in Treliving, so I tend to agree but damn some of these god awful rumors that get floated out there by folks who claim to know someone who knows someone are nasty.

[bubbsy]

What about the panthers as a trade partner?

What has to be added to a gaudreau (or monahan) to get ekblad?

[Muta]

Sometimes we win trades. Remember when we got a 2nd round pick for goddamn RETO BERRA? That was a fun day. Colorado must’ve been drunk on elderberries or something.

[sureLoss]

Spitting Chiclets co-host says Krug's rights are moving tomorrow

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Look for the Bruins to trade Torey Krug's rights tomorrow to a team looking for exclusive negotiations before UFA opens on 10/9. Colorado, Florida, Vegas, and Detroit are among the suitors.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

What about the panthers as a trade partner?

What has to be added to a gaudreau (or monahan) to get ekblad?

I feel like Ekblad for Laine is the trade that has to happen

Barkov-Laine would be an elite Finnish duo and Ekblad fits a perfect need for the Jets. Maybe add some other pieces on either side to balance it out

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I feel like Ekblad for Laine is the trade that has to happen

Barkov-Laine would be an elite Finnish duo and Ekblad fits a perfect need for the Jets. Maybe add some other pieces on either side to balance it out

Oddly enough I think that Winnipeg adds to that. Laine and Roslovic would be fair.

[neo45]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I still have faith in Treliving, so I tend to agree but damn some of these god awful rumors that get floated out there by folks who claim to know someone who knows someone are nasty.

I would have faith if his off-season to do list was re-sign a bunch of RFA’s

A lot less faith considering the list was to evaluate coaching candidates, starting goalies, and the UFA market given his track record

It’s pretty scary to think who he might want to bring in and what he will be willing to give up to do it.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Muta

Sometimes we win trades. Remember when we got a 2nd round pick for goddamn RETO BERRA? That was a fun day. Colorado must’ve been drunk on elderberries or something.

Who did the 2nd rounder end up being?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Who did the 2nd rounder end up being?

Hunter Smith

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Who did the 2nd rounder end up being?

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Hunter Smith

Imagine if the Flames had gotten Brayden Point with the pick they got for Reto Berra.

What a win that would have been.

[LIP MAN]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Imagine if the Flames had gotten Brayden Point with the pick they got for Reto Berra.

What a win that would have been.

Point should be a Flame. Friend of mine knows the family well. He wanted to play here, did very well at the top prospects game played in Calgary that year and had great skill and hockey sense. Stars were aligned. Then truculence happened and we draft Hunter Smith. I was genuinely mad about that. Feel like Tre would have went for Point based on recent history.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by LIP MAN

Point should be a Flame. Friend of mine knows the family well. He wanted to play here, did very well at the top prospects game played in Calgary that year and had great skill and hockey sense. Stars were aligned. Then truculence happened and we draft Hunter Smith. I was genuinely mad about that. Feel like Tre would have went for Point based on recent history.

I feel there is a sense that the Flames particularly whiffed on Point because he is from Calgary. And perhaps there is some truth to that - but I don't know if I agree that it actually is a factor.
He was playing in a league (WHL) and for a team (MooseJaw) that is very well scouted. The entire NHL, including the Bolts, who drafted Jonathan MacLeod ahead of him in the 2nd - missed on Point.

I agree though that the organization now seems to value skill and upside over size and toughness - and that based on that philosophy it is more likely that Point would have been a pick for them.

But then again, I think the entire NHL has evolved in this way. If a Point type of player was a available now - I think he goes in the 1st round.

Credit to the Bolts though - they are where they are because of great drafting (Point, Kucherov, Palat), great trades (Drouin for Sergachev) and just great management overall.

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by LIP MAN

Point should be a Flame. Friend of mine knows the family well. He wanted to play here, did very well at the top prospects game played in Calgary that year and had great skill and hockey sense. Stars were aligned. Then truculence happened and we draft Hunter Smith. I was genuinely mad about that. Feel like Tre would have went for Point based on recent history.

Every team passed on Point for one reason or another. These things happen all the time.

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by LIP MAN

Point should be a Flame. Friend of mine knows the family well. He wanted to play here, did very well at the top prospects game played in Calgary that year and had great skill and hockey sense. Stars were aligned. Then truculence happened and we draft Hunter Smith. I was genuinely mad about that. Feel like Tre would have went for Point based on recent history.

We also passed on Point to draft Brandon Hickey, who wasn't the most truculent of defensemen. So I think blaming "truculence" doesn't exactly make much sense. Essentially every team passed on Point 2-3 times.

Based on recent history Tre likely would have drafted different people, but to say that it would have been Point is completely baseless. Players like Donato, Dvorak, Montour, Foegle, Wallmark would also be more Treliving like picks.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Hickey looked really good in his D plus 1 and 2 years. Dude hasn't even played in a single NHL game. Not sure what happened to him.