[Trade] Flames trade Toffoli to NJ for RFA rights to Sharangovich and 80th OA

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by PuckSlap

True. I'm glad the trade has worked out in our favour. But we don't need to keep this at the top

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You literally kept it there by saying that.

So did I now!

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Bingo

You literally kept it there by saying that.

So did I now!

Stop it! You'll have the rest of us doing it, too!

[Locke]

Originally Posted by D as in David

Stop it! You'll have the rest of us doing it, too!

Its like a Merry-go-Round that we can't get off of!!

Someone help!!

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Florida has been really impressive in the way they have aquired players. They also stole Tkachuk and Reinhart in trades. Other than Barkov and Ekblad they've made some extremely savvy moves to build their core.

Even things that shouldn't work out well for them are.

Oliver Ekman-Larsson looks like a solid top 4 defender again, and he's added 8 goals and 21 points in 42 games, making him their top scoring defenseman. I hated that signing the moment it happened, but he's been way better than expected. Even Kulikov looks okay out there. This was a defensive group that was supposed to be god awful this year, especially with Ekblad and Montour out so long to start. Somehow they're 2nd overall in the league in GA/G.

Everything's coming up Millhouse!

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Florida has been really impressive in the way they have aquired players. They also stole Tkachuk and Reinhart in trades. Other than Barkov and Ekblad they've made some extremely savvy moves to build their core.

Something the tear-it-downers tell us, repeatedly, is impossible

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Something the tear-it-downers tell us, repeatedly, is impossible

If you say it enough. Maybe it is?

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Something the tear-it-downers tell us, repeatedly, is impossible

I dont think we have a barkov comparable on this team.

And I think most posters, including the rebuild group, would be okay if we acquired a 24 year old 100 point player signed for 8 years for a couple of UFAs and a 1st.


I would like to rebuild. But I would be fully okay if they trade lindholm, hanifin and tanev and flipped some assets for zegras.

[Eric Vail]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

I think Florida is very good at finding good players who just didn't fit the environment they were in. Sharangovich is a prime example of that for Calgary. I can't remember where I read it but Florida deliberately tried to find those types of players and said that they hit a home run when they acquired Sam Bennett. I hope the Conroy picked up on that, and has some more targets in mind like Sharangovich.

I don't think this strategy is anything new. All teams want to do this, but you need pro scouts that can identify players with more upside than they are showing and can still turn it around. That is easier said than done.

Calgary's problem is they have made some stabs at guys over the years, and were wrong more than they were right. Curtis Lazar for a second rounder was an example where they thought he'd blossom in a new environment, but were wrong.

Ironically, Cory Stillman for Craig Conroy was one of those trades that paid off. At the time, everyone was mad they made it. They traded one of their few scorers for a grinder. However Conroy blossomed and the Flames won that deal.

[Monahammer]

Yeah guys it's a total mystery why Florida has no trouble building by acquiring good young players while calgary doesn't have success. Real head scratcher.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Yeah guys it's a total mystery why Florida has no trouble building by acquiring good young players while calgary doesn't have success. Real head scratcher.

Lindholm, Hanifin, and Sharangovich would like you to explain why you say Calgary doesn't have success at acquiring good young players.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Yeah guys it's a total mystery why Florida has no trouble building by acquiring good young players while calgary doesn't have success. Real head scratcher.

Florida who didn't win a playoff round between 1996 and 2022?

nobody can build like them I guess

Tkachuk was 100% geography though as I sit in my 16 degree basement with the heat on lol

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Something the tear-it-downers tell us, repeatedly, is impossible

I've never seen anyone say it's impossible. Improbable yes because Flordia is an exception not the norm. Not to mention Barkov and Ekblad are 1OA and 2OA picks and massive parts of their team. So even if you're the very best in the league at finding players like Florida, you're likely not a contender without Barkov and Ekblad. So it basically proves my point. Not to mention, a 3rd OA allowed them to get Tkachuk. Seems like those top picks were pretty vital to building that team. A Florida with no Barkov, Ekblad, Tkachuk, are they even a playoff team? Maybe a bubble team. Sounds familiar.

[Shazam]

I'm okay with the risk of an extended rebuild. I don't think it's any worse than what they're doing now. I think the probability for a top 5 team to emerge is higher.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Hackey

I've never seen anyone say it's impossible. Improbable yes because Flordia is an exception not the norm. Not to mention Barkov and Ekblad are 1OA and 2OA picks and massive parts of their team. So even if you're the very best in the league at finding players like Florida, you're likely not a contender without Barkov and Ekblad. So it basically proves my point. Not to mention, a 3rd OA allowed them to get Tkachuk. Seems like those top picks were pretty vital to building that team. A Florida with no Barkov, Ekblad, Tkachuk, are they even a playoff team? Maybe a bubble team. Sounds familiar.

It proves nothing (other than the fact that there is no single blueprint), but is yet another example of molding the specific circumstances to fit whatever narrative is being pitched

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

It proves nothing (other than the fact that there is no single blueprint), but is yet another example of molding the specific circumstances to fit whatever narrative is being pitched

You, of course, are the most objective Flames fan ever.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Shazam

You, of course, are the most objective Flames fan ever.

Feel free to let me know when I'm not being objective

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Feel free to let me know when I'm not being objective

You'd support whatever direction the Flames take. Like you'd ever stop being a fan lol. You'd be dead first.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Shazam

You'd support whatever direction the Flames take. Like you'd ever stop being a fan lol. You'd be dead first.

Well I am a fan, yes. Not sure about to the death, though. But I do try to be supportive, for the most part, because hating everything they do seems like a fairly miserable existence.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Hackey

I've never seen anyone say it's impossible. Improbable yes because Flordia is an exception not the norm. Not to mention Barkov and Ekblad are 1OA and 2OA picks and massive parts of their team. So even if you're the very best in the league at finding players like Florida, you're likely not a contender without Barkov and Ekblad. So it basically proves my point. Not to mention, a 3rd OA allowed them to get Tkachuk. Seems like those top picks were pretty vital to building that team. A Florida with no Barkov, Ekblad, Tkachuk, are they even a playoff team? Maybe a bubble team. Sounds familiar.

lol as if
92 points last year as is

although maybe they should win something before we crown them

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Shazam

You, of course, are the most objective Flames fan ever.

I can vouch for Enoch. He is the most objective person of all time.

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