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Old 10-14-2018, 09:34 PM   #1081
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There do not seem to be very strong bids yet for 2026 by other cities either. The Milan bid proposal is lacking a lot of details so far. The Stockholm bid also includes events being held hundred of km from Stockholm, including in another country (Latvia).
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To be fair Sigulda is one of the finest tracks in the world in my opinion. I believe it was just renovated as well.
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There do not seem to be very strong bids yet for 2026 by other cities either. The Milan bid proposal is lacking a lot of details so far. The Stockholm bid also includes events being held hundred of km from Stockholm, including in another country (Latvia).
sort of like calgary's bid?
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I'm struggling to understand the Whistler connection here. I've read several recent articles and Whistler is just as confused. They're like Hey, it's still going to cost us hundreds of millions to get our stuff ready and host this.
I don't see how that could be the case. This would be on the scale of just about any other mid-size event they might hold outside of the Olympics (sliding, nordic, skiing, or boarding)...maybe a few extra media folks and broadcasters. They definitely have the capacity to take it on
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I don't see how that could be the case. This would be on the scale of just about any other mid-size event they might hold outside of the Olympics (sliding, nordic, skiing, or boarding)...maybe a few extra media folks and broadcasters. They definitely have the capacity to take it on

They have to rejig the Nordic events, like basically create new courses for the cross country races which would include seating and buildings. And while the jump facilities are good to go now, they expect to have a bunch of improvements to do in eight years. And also the athletes village is now occupied by residents so there would be some issues finding existing housing for athletes. And of course security. You know for sure if Calgary is paying they will make it as cushy as possible for themselves.
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I haven’t really followed this issue closely. Is the plebiscite binding on council?
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I haven’t really followed this issue closely. Is the plebiscite binding on council?

It is now sort of because the provincial money is contingent upon it.
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It is now sort of because the provincial money is contingent upon it.
Did the city commit to a binding plebiscite if the provincial money was the required amount?
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Did the city commit to a binding plebiscite if the provincial money was the required amount?

I think the council said there is some room to maneuver if the vote was close or if the turn out was low...like it wasn't totally binding. But the province says 49.9% is a no and would result in no money from them. So it's not technically a binding plebiscite but it kind of is. And I don't think the provincial amount has much to do with it. No 700 million would mean no bid.
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sort of like calgary's bid?
No, nothing like Calgary's bid. The vast majority of the events on the Calgary bid plan will be held within a 90 minute drive from downtown Calgary.


If you look at the planned schedule for the 2022 Games, there will be 109 medal events. If those same events are held in 2026, 101 of those 109 medals will be competed for in either Canmore, Nakiska, or Calgary (subject to the curling location). Only 8 of the 109 will be competed for in Whistler.


The Italian plan has only hockey, figure skating, and short track being held in Milan (16 medals). The rest of the events will be held in either Cortina or various cities between Milan and Cortina.

The Swedish plan has all of the ice events (hockey, figure skating, speed skating, short track, and curling), cross country, biathlon, snowboard big air, and parallel slalom skiing to be held in the Stockholm area. Ski jumping and Nordic combined are planned for Falun, over 200km from Stockholm. The sliding events will be in Latvia, almost 500km from Stockholm. The remaining ski and snowboard events will be in Are, over 500km from Stockholm. A little over half the total medals will be awarded in competitions held within the Stockholm metro area. The rest will be over 200km away.
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They have to rejig the Nordic events, like basically create new courses for the cross country races which would include seating and buildings. And while the jump facilities are good to go now, they expect to have a bunch of improvements to do in eight years. And also the athletes village is now occupied by residents so there would be some issues finding existing housing for athletes. And of course security. You know for sure if Calgary is paying they will make it as cushy as possible for themselves.
just like Calgary wants it as cushy as possible from the province and federal taxpayers.

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Could mean the plebiscite is doomed, could just show the "No" side is way more enthusiastic, but interesting that on the City of Calgary engagement site that 73% of people strongly disagree with submitting a bid.

https://engage.calgary.ca/2026Games?...t=%2F2026games
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They have to rejig the Nordic events, like basically create new courses for the cross country races which would include seating and buildings. And while the jump facilities are good to go now, they expect to have a bunch of improvements to do in eight years. And also the athletes village is now occupied by residents so there would be some issues finding existing housing for athletes. And of course security. You know for sure if Calgary is paying they will make it as cushy as possible for themselves.
Bleachers and housing would fall under operational costs (same with security - at least that is to say from the same pot of security money as Calgary, Canmore, and Nakiska), I believe already accounted for in the bid. Whistler definitely has the housing capacity for that number of athletes and media - it will cost Xmas week rates, but nothing new will need to be built.

Why would the nordic courses have to be rejigged from 2010? In 2026, the Whistler facilities will be at least 16 years old - they will naturally have received a few fresh coats of paint and some new lightbulbs by then, as would have happened regardless.

BC isn't going to be on the hook for any notable costs (unless they are mutually negotiated). They're just getting a bonus fortnight of full hotels and restaurants.
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BC getting any benefits from our bid is also a big reason to vote No on this.
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Bleachers and housing would fall under operational costs (same with security - at least that is to say from the same pot of security money as Calgary, Canmore, and Nakiska), I believe already accounted for in the bid. Whistler definitely has the housing capacity for that number of athletes and media - it will cost Xmas week rates, but nothing new will need to be built.

Yeah that's not true though. They might be able to accommodate the crowds but WSL is already planning more housing for sporting events since most of thier's is completely full with staff housing and they want Calgary's Olympic bid to help fund their new building....


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The hostel in Cheakamus could also provide accommodation, Soane added, while a new WSL apartment building currently pending approval could fill any gaps. “We were going to build that anyways so it’s not going to be a legacy of the Calgary Games, but they certainly could help fund that with some capital,”
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Why would the nordic courses have to be rejigged from 2010? In 2026, the Whistler facilities will be at least 16 years old - they will naturally have received a few fresh coats of paint and some new lightbulbs by then, as would have happened regardless

That's not accurate either. Notley can send light bulbs but there are other issues.


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WOP’s ski jumps are, “ready to go today,” explained Roger Soane, president and CEO of WSL. However, he cautions that it may not be the case eight years down the road. While it would be decidedly less costly than renovating or building new jumps in Calgary, there would need to be trail work to reconfigure start and finish lines; temporary seating for spectators needs to be built; and potential upgrades to WOP’s refrigeration system and a chairlift installed ahead of any Olympic events

There has been development all around the 2010 xcountry courses and so they have to recreate course areas and add new infrastructure. And as they said, the ski jump may be obsolete by 2026 or at the very least, require more substantial upgrades.


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BC isn't going to be on the hook for any notable costs (unless they are mutually negotiated). They're just getting a bonus fortnight of full hotels and restaurants.

That I totally agree with. Also, the fact is that no one really knows what the plan or the cost would be. There are many different opinions on cost to refurbish Calgary and cost to spruce up Whistler.



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BC getting any benefits from our bid is also a big reason to vote No on this.
Despite they fact the BC taxpayer would be paying ~ 5% of the cost? Just putting that out there.
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Despite they fact the BC taxpayer would be paying ~ 5% of the cost? Just putting that out there.
I'm assuming the 5% is their share of the Federal money that would fund the Olympics? It still doesn't move the needle for me, they'd be paying that money to the Government no matter what so it's really a sunk cost for them. We as a Province and City would be bearing most of the costs if this goes through, paying a lot extra for BC to get a decent amount of spinoff benefits.
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I'm assuming the 5% is their share of the Federal money that would fund the Olympics? It still doesn't move the needle for me, they'd be paying that money to the Government no matter what so it's really a sunk cost for them. We as a Province and City would be bearing most of the costs if this goes through, paying a lot extra for BC to get a decent amount of spinoff benefits.
Correct, and yes I was just putting the number out there to point out that whatever benefit BC (or elsewhere) receives is not 100% free since all Canadians would be ponying up for this.

And by that token Calgarians would be on the hook for more than just 1/3 of the cost (assuming a 1/3 - 1/3 - 1/3) Municipal-Provincial-Federal split, and I am guessing that is how it breaks down. So really a Calgary taxpayer would be responsible for 1/3 (Municipal) + 0.25(1/3) (Provincial) + 0.03 (1/3) Federal= 42% of the total cost if you ballpark it.
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These advertisements suggesting you should consult your kids before voting is idiotic. WTF do they know? If I consulted my kids, they would want Alberta to secede and join Disneyland.
Right? My kids (and most everyone else's) would rather watch Youtube and Twitch streamers than the Olympics on TV, regardless of where they are.
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Assuming this story is true, and nenshi is quoted correctly He has now completely lost me.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4552048/n...ince-olympics/

He figures that the city paying more than the province for his vanity project is a bad deal for the city.

I am sure the folks in Medicine Hat or red cliff want the province to be picking up the lions share of something for the city.
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