07-29-2021, 08:49 PM
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#21
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
Well, this is a significantly better contract than the disaster that Chicago gave Jones.
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Yeah, I think it's better than the Jones contract.
Werenski has a year left, so this takes him through 25 to 31.
Right through the prime.
And I think Werenski is flat out a better defenseman than Jones as well.
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07-29-2021, 08:49 PM
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#22
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First Line Centre
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The Anderson for Domi trade is already a disaster
Laine isn't going to last more than this season in Columbus
This is an ridiculous contract, especially compared to the recent comparables
Jarmo isn't looking like some super GM these days. The Jones trade was nice but it's looking like one step forward, two steps back every offseason in Columbus
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07-29-2021, 08:49 PM
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#23
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Calgary
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Did Jarmo just hand Werenski's agent a blank sheet of paper and say "write down whatever number it will take to keep Zach in Columbus but keep it below 10 million AAV"?
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07-29-2021, 08:53 PM
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#24
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Draft Pick
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: The Tron, NZ
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07-29-2021, 08:56 PM
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#25
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Why would this be a comparable for Hughes? RFA vs UFA. Two very different things.
And Columbus really had to overpay here.
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07-29-2021, 09:02 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dino7c
If that is all he wanted wouldn't it be done?
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Not exactly sure but I dont think the canucks were in a rush up to this point
No offer sheet possibility, and just from a negotiating perspective, more leverage for the team than the player with less cap space once the rest of the lineup is close to filled out
The athletic had an article about his and petersons deals where they asked 5 agents what they would expect and for hughes they had between 5.1 and 6.5
https://theathletic.com/2703953/2021...cts-look-like/
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07-29-2021, 09:07 PM
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#27
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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It's an overpay but the Jackest are demonstrating that they are willing to keep pay their guys. They have to go the extra mile to make the organization more desirable to players. He's better than Jones and his prime years are covered by the deal so the value will be good on the back end of the deal.
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07-29-2021, 09:16 PM
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#28
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Closet Jedi
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BJs = no good
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07-29-2021, 09:18 PM
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#29
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Gotta keep somebody. Werenski is young and good. I'd rather have this deal than the Jones one in Chicago.
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07-29-2021, 09:21 PM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Is Werenski the third best Dman in the league?
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07-29-2021, 09:22 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
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Unbelievably bad negotiating by Jarmo here. I just don't understand how you can look at Brayden Point and Cale Makar and go, "yeah, our guy should get a better contract than those dudes, he's definitely worth it." He's clearly not.
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07-29-2021, 09:25 PM
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#32
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Philly06Cup
BJs = no good
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Guess we've dated different people.
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07-29-2021, 09:26 PM
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#33
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by d_phaneuf
Hughes has no leverage because he cant be offersheeted, hes also not gonna be using up ufa years
My guess is hughes comes in around 6ish on a 3 year deal
This contract for werenski is horrible, colombus tax is real
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I'll take the over for $1,000
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07-29-2021, 09:29 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Your turn Nurse!
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07-29-2021, 09:31 PM
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#35
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Samonadreau
Your turn Nurse!
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Holland wants to give Nurse $10 million because he's the "best defenseman in the league" but they don't have the cap space. What a conundrum.
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07-29-2021, 09:31 PM
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#36
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by d_phaneuf
Not exactly sure but I dont think the canucks were in a rush up to this point
No offer sheet possibility, and just from a negotiating perspective, more leverage for the team than the player with less cap space once the rest of the lineup is close to filled out
The athletic had an article about his and petersons deals where they asked 5 agents what they would expect and for hughes they had between 5.1 and 6.5
https://theathletic.com/2703953/2021...cts-look-like/ |
I'm guessing those numbers were suggested before any of these contracts were signed.
Makar: $9.5
Heiskanen: $8.45
Zones: $9.5
Werenski: $9.583
Hughes is an idiot if he takes $6M. Ain't happening.
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07-29-2021, 09:34 PM
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#37
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I'm guessing those numbers were suggested before any of these contracts were signed.
Makar: $9.5
Heiskanen: $8.45
Zones: $9.5
Werenski: $9.583
Hughes is an idiot if he takes $6M. Ain't happening.
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Those were all long term deals
Hughes wont be
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07-29-2021, 09:36 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I'm guessing those numbers were suggested before any of these contracts were signed.
Makar: $9.5
Heiskanen: $8.45
Zones: $9.5
Werenski: $9.583
Hughes is an idiot if he takes $6M. Ain't happening.
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Makar is “only” $9M.
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07-29-2021, 09:39 PM
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#39
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by d_phaneuf
Those were all long term deals
Hughes wont be
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No, but short term deals don't go for way less cap hit any more.
Why would he take 3 years at $6M when these guys are getting $9.5M? He would need $11.5M for the next 5 years just to break even.
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07-29-2021, 09:41 PM
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#40
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Scoring Winger
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Ha we got Welinkski for way less! You can’t hardly tell the difference in names. No one will know!
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