The Tesla Thread

[zamler]

What if a traffic signal happens to be in the exact spot as the moon as far as the cameras go.

[Fuzz]

Perhaps they just need to program it like a human would respond...treat all yellow lights as green. There there, little Tesla, now you fit in.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by zamler

What if a traffic signal happens to be in the exact spot as the moon as far as the cameras go.

The vehicle is moving so the change of size and angle of the traffic light will be much greater than the moon which is far away.

[Wormius]

Unless the goal is ultimately chauffeur-style self-driving cars, why not focus the money and energy on what would provide the most bang for the buck, which should be collision avoidance, i.e.) preventing a driver from making unsafe lane changes, automatic braking, or even automatic acceleration if there is a risk of being rear-ended. You don’t need self-driving to get the benefits of safety.

This would result in fewer accidents and hopefully lower insurance rates. Some of this exists to an extent in most car, and doesn’t even need to be EV-centric.

I am thinking the best way to move forward is: full electrification of personal vehicles and collision avoidance tech. I just don’t see the appeal of a somewhat finicky, have to be alert, “full” self-driving car that doesn’t allow me to take a power nap in the back seat or let me program in an 8 hour drive at 11pm so I arrive at my destination well-rested.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Unless the goal is ultimately chauffeur-style self-driving cars, why not focus the money and energy on what would provide the most bang for the buck, which should be collision avoidance, i.e.) preventing a driver from making unsafe lane changes, automatic braking, or even automatic acceleration if there is a risk of being rear-ended. You don’t need self-driving to get the benefits of safety.

This would result in fewer accidents and hopefully lower insurance rates. Some of this exists to an extent in most car, and doesn’t even need to be EV-centric.

I am thinking the best way to move forward is: full electrification of personal vehicles and collision avoidance tech. I just don’t see the appeal of a somewhat finicky, have to be alert, “full” self-driving car that doesn’t allow me to take a power nap in the back seat or let me program in an 8 hour drive at 11pm so I arrive at my destination well-rested.

There's no objective reason why an electric car is any more likely to be self-driving than an IC powered vehicle. It happens that the current leader in both of them is the same company, but there isn't any reason that's ordained to be true.

[You Need a Thneed]

Tesla has completely removed the Cybertruck from it’s website.

No section, description, pricing.

[Fuzz]

Really?

https://www.tesla.com/en_ca/cybertruck

Oh. It's gone form the US site. Confirmed, Cybertruck exclusive to Canada and Mexico.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Really?

https://www.tesla.com/en_ca/cybertruck

Oh. It's gone form the US site. Confirmed, Cybertruck exclusive to Canada and Mexico.

I’m seeing that it’s still there, it’s just now more hidden with the other “future” vehicles, lumped in with the Roadster and Semi, and not in with the S3XY.

You can’t configure one like you could previously, either.

Still a pretty hard acknowledgement from Tesla that they are nowhere near delivering any to customers.

[You Need a Thneed]

https://electrek.co/2021/10/15/tesla...-from-website/

[Azure]

Maybe a big deal?

American car rental company Hertz has placed an order for 100,000 Tesla Model 3 vehicles as part of a move to electrify its fleet. Such an order will now represent about $4.2 billion of revenue for Tesla and account for a huge chunk of production.

Hertz Global Holdings Inc. has placed an order for 100,000 Tesla Model 3s as a step towards its ambitious plan to electrify its rental car fleet. It will be the largest EV purchase known to date and is a great example for other companies in the fight to reduce CO2 emissions from combustion engine vehicles.

"Electric vehicles are now mainstream, and we've only just begun to see rising global demand and interest," said Hertz interim CEO Mark Fields. "The new Hertz is going to lead the way as a mobility company, starting with the largest EV rental fleet in North America and a commitment to grow our EV fleet and provide the best rental and recharging experience for leisure and business customers around the world."

https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesm...m-hertz-report

[Fuzz]

I've always wondered how well EV's would do in the rental world, I guess we will find out. I know when I travel, the last thing I want to do its wait around for a car to charge, or find a charge point. Most of the places I stay wouldn't have that type of thing.

[Azure]

They mentioned they are setting up their own charging network and guide you where you need to go to charge.

But you are correct. Last thing anyone thinks about when renting a car is charging it. Even filling gas is annoying.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Azure

They mentioned they are setting up their own charging network and guide you where you need to go to charge.

But you are correct. Last thing anyone thinks about when renting a car is charging it. Even filling gas is annoying.

I wonder if they'll charge a "returning empty" fee too. Just for consistency sake. But!!! You can pre-buy your electrons for peace of mind at a totally reasonable not inflated price.

[Azure]

At 50x inflated charging cost. In fact, the lack of charging available might give them the opportunity to make even more money that way.

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I wonder if they'll charge a "returning empty" fee too. Just for consistency sake. But!!! You can pre-buy your electrons for peace of mind at a totally reasonable not inflated price.

Haha, I was just going to post the same thought.

[Azure]

Apparently there will be some software enhancements included to help the rental cars manage their fleet, charging, etc.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by Azure

Maybe a big deal?

I would say so. That along with other factors has caused the stock to surge went from 777 to 1077 in one month. Almost finished the day at 1077.77 if that happened I would have been completely convinced were are in a simulation. I'm already wondering, the head of Tesla's FSD has the name Andrej Karpathy. Karpathy? Car Path? Are we being ####ed with?

[Fuzz]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1479086874140594176


LOL. Elon has built the least efficient subway ever, requiring a driver for every car, and it gets traffic jams. Brilliant.

[You Need a Thneed]

Tesla upping the cost of “Full Self Driving” to $12k.

I don’t know how they aren’t charged with fraud. The first Teslas sold with FSD are nearly worn out and off the roads already, and Tesla isn’t really any further towards having a vehicle being able to autonomously drive than they were then, despite making a very nice level 2 automation system.

[Fuzz]

They are fortunate to have such a rabidly loyal fanbase. Err...customers.


It is kind of weird, thoguh, seems like a slam dunk of bait and switch for a lawyer to take on.