Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > Fire on Ice: The Calgary Flames Forum
Ivrnet

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-28-2019, 09:16 PM   #1
sureLoss
Some kinda newsbreaker!
 
sureLoss's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
Exp:
Default The Athletic: Absent for over a decade, the Russians are coming (again) to Calgary

https://theathletic.com/984499/2019/...in-to-calgary/

Some highlights for those without a subscription:

Craig Button thinks the Flames failed Andrei Taratukhin. Says Taratukhin came willing to play in the minors while his wife and newborn twins stayed in Russia because of Visa issues. Played all 80 games and was tied for the team lead in points and only returned to Russia after a year because he felt that the Flames would never give him an opportunity.

Treliving says that Rafikov kept saying that he wanted to stay in Russia for another year and never really seemed engaged in coming over. Says his development has stagnated.

All 3 Russians (Zav, Yel, Zag) will be at development camp in July.

Likes Yelesin's attitude - real upbeat kid.
Decent first pass. Hard defender. Rugged. Bomb of a shot. Not a puck distributor but supports the play.

Zagidulin is raw and needs physical development.
Looks like they expect him to start in the AHL with Parsons.
__________________
Media from: @NHLGIFs, @Sportsnet960, @NHL, @NHLFlames

Last edited by sureLoss; 05-29-2019 at 02:59 PM.
sureLoss is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 11 Users Say Thank You to sureLoss For This Useful Post:
Old 05-28-2019, 09:27 PM   #2
AC
Resident Videologist
 
AC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

There was also the rumour of the 3rd Russian being signed by Calgary, Andrei Chibisov.

I don't believe he has signed anywhere yet.
__________________
AC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2019, 09:33 PM   #3
savardandjokinen
son of looooob
 
savardandjokinen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Any mention of Karnaukhov?
__________________
Edmonton Oilers GM CPHL
savardandjokinen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2019, 09:36 PM   #4
Mr.Coffee
damn onions
 
Mr.Coffee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Exp:
Default

Nm
Mr.Coffee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2019, 10:23 PM   #5
Reggie Dunlop
All I can get
 
Reggie Dunlop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: The Aces
Exp:
Default

Zagidulin's signing likely spells the end of Jon Gillies' tenure with the organization. I expect him to be moved in a minor league deal.
__________________
Scouts?
Reggie Dunlop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2019, 10:27 PM   #6
dammage79
Franchise Player
 
dammage79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Also a good sign that drafting Russians is a thing again. There's like 5-6 in the Flames range this draft that have high upside.
dammage79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2019, 10:33 PM   #7
Reggie Dunlop
All I can get
 
Reggie Dunlop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: The Aces
Exp:
Default

Top Flames Russian goaltenders

1. Andrei Trefilov
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.

2. Andrei Medvedev
__________________
Scouts?
Reggie Dunlop is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Reggie Dunlop For This Useful Post:
Old 05-28-2019, 11:22 PM   #8
crapshoot
First Line Centre
 
crapshoot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Sweden
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop View Post
Top Flames Russian goaltenders

1. Andrei Trefilov
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.

2. Andrei Medvedev

Well, at least Andrei Trefilov finally got to be top-something.
crapshoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2019, 11:50 PM   #9
Pointman
First Line Centre
 
Pointman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Moscow, Russia
Exp:
Default

Russia has never been any good at producing defenders.

We seem to get a vezina caliber goalie in every generation (Vasilevskiy, Bobrovskiy, Varlamov, Khabibulin), but we are not a goalies factory like Finland. Russia is mostly about two-way centers (Malkin, Datsyuk, Fedorov) and high-scoring wingers, who usually play on their off-side.
Pointman is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Pointman For This Useful Post:
Old 05-29-2019, 08:49 AM   #10
GioforPM
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pointman View Post
Russia has never been any good at producing defenders.

We seem to get a vezina caliber goalie in every generation (Vasilevskiy, Bobrovskiy, Varlamov, Khabibulin), but we are not a goalies factory like Finland. Russia is mostly about two-way centers (Malkin, Datsyuk, Fedorov) and high-scoring wingers, who usually play on their off-side.
There used to be top quality defencemen too: Fetisov, Konstantinov, etc. And they still have a bunch of very good ones.
GioforPM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2019, 09:34 AM   #11
dustygoon
Franchise Player
 
dustygoon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: San Fran
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop View Post
Zagidulin's signing likely spells the end of Jon Gillies' tenure with the organization. I expect him to be moved in a minor league deal.
Which i agree should happen, but up until that last while the guy has had several seasons where he was top 10 in save % in whatever league he was in. That hip surgery set him back and he is 25. If I was an org with room for a goalie in the minors, Gillies is a free option that could turn out. Binnington is a year older. Drafting and developing goalies is a fools errand it seems.
dustygoon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2019, 09:42 AM   #12
cral12
Powerplay Quarterback
 
cral12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM View Post
There used to be top quality defencemen too: Fetisov, Konstantinov, etc. And they still have a bunch of very good ones.
+ Kasatonov, Zubov, etc

(but yeah, i guess the recent trend is that they're not producing high-end D)
__________________
Instagram & Twitter: @chrisra1ph
cral12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2019, 10:11 AM   #13
GioforPM
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cral12 View Post
+ Kasatonov, Zubov, etc

(but yeah, i guess the recent trend is that they're not producing high-end D)
There are some pretty good ones though.
GioforPM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2019, 10:29 AM   #14
Jiggy
Powerplay Quarterback
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop View Post
Top Flames Russian goaltenders

1. Andrei Trefilov
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.

2. Andrei Medvedev
Medvedev was better at eating pastries. Didn't he eat 6 before a World Jr game?
Jiggy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2019, 12:34 PM   #15
FlamesFanFromBC
First Line Centre
 
FlamesFanFromBC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: BC
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop View Post
Top Flames Russian goaltenders

1. Andrei Trefilov
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.

2. Andrei Medvedev
Also

Top Flames Russian Draft Picks

1. Sergei Makarov
2. German Titov
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.

3. All other Russian draft picks
__________________
FlamesFanFromBC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2019, 02:57 PM   #16
sureLoss
Some kinda newsbreaker!
 
sureLoss's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by savardandjokinen View Post
Any mention of Karnaukhov?
nope
__________________
Media from: @NHLGIFs, @Sportsnet960, @NHL, @NHLFlames
sureLoss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2019, 08:36 PM   #17
1Nite
Scoring Winger
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop View Post
Top Flames Russian goaltenders

1. Andrei Trefilov
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.

2. Andrei Medvedev
Are you comparing their body of work?
1Nite is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2019, 08:40 PM   #18
Locke
ness Monster
 
Locke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
Exp:
Default

__________________
- "Somebody may beat me, but they're going to have to bleed to do it."
- Steve Prefontaine
This Post Has Been Distilled for the Eradication of Seemingly Incurable Sadness.
Locke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2019, 01:14 AM   #19
868904
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesFanFromBC View Post
Also

Top Flames Russian Draft Picks

1. Sergei Makarov
2. German Titov
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.

3. All other Russian draft picks
So Flames just have to draft post apex Russians and they will work out.
__________________
Calgary Flames, PLEASE GO TO THE NET! AND SHOOT THE PUCK! GENERATING OFFENSE IS NOT DIFFICULT! SKATE HARD, SHOOT HARD, CRASH THE NET HARD!
868904 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to 868904 For This Useful Post:
Old 05-30-2019, 11:16 AM   #20
Flames Draft Watcher
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by savardandjokinen View Post
Any mention of Karnaukhov?
I wouldn't hold any hope for him.
Flames Draft Watcher is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:48 AM.

Calgary Flames
2017-18




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2016