[Rumour] Something up in Buffalo? Treliving scouting back to back Sabres games

[442scotty]

Originally Posted by Bawbag

I'd take either one at the right price.

Bennett for Reinhart straight up?

Hell no... Reinhart has already maxed out like his brothers

[Kybb79]

Trading Brodie im ok with.No to Sam.

[1qqaaz]

I hope they sign either Kane or Neal in the offseason.
But the Flames aren't bonafide contenders and they should not be spending large amounts of assets on rentals.

As for Bennett for Reinhart, I think the Flames would have to add. Bennett might provide more dimensions, but Reinhart's career point per game is 50% higher.
I don't want to give up on Bennett yet anyways.

I wouldn't be opposed to trading away Kylington or Gillies. I feel like Kylington might never get a chance here. Andersson, Fox, and Valimaki are all better prospects IMO. Don't know what Buffalo would be willing to give up for him though.

[Badgers Nose]

Joking aside, I'm actually a little nervous about BT making a blockbuster trade.

I'd rather see him clear some space for the kids that are knocking on the door (Hathaway and Mangiapane).

[Harry Lime]

If you look at it from Buffalo's point of view, they would only look at a few pieces on Calgary's team. Buffalo targets would be forwards and depth defencemen. Their defence is strong, once the injured players come back. I think playing Eichel with Girgensons is showcasing Girgensons.

Perhaps a Girgensons for Versteeg/Wotherspoon type of deal.

In Conspiracy world, if Calgary doesn't feel as though they can sign Backlund, that would be a player that Buffalo would covet greatly. O'reilly, Eichel, Backlund would be a devastating centre depth. They have Josh Gorges coming off the books next year to offset what they would need to pay Backs.

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by 442scotty

Hell no... Reinhart has already maxed out like his brothers

Reinhart has maxed out but the guy picked 2 spots later hasn't. Hilarious. They're both young players who may need a fresh start. There's no denying that both guys haven't lived up to their potential. A Sam for Sam swap makes some sense.

I agree I wouldn't do it, but to say Reinhart is maxed out is laughable.

[Badgers Nose]

What are the Oilers looking for? Safe to say they are looking to trade the Nuge, right?

That might give us a clue who BUF wants and who Flames might be interested in.

[Kybb79]

Reinhart is soft i don't think we need anymore players like that.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

In Conspiracy world, if Calgary doesn't feel as though they can sign Backlund, that would be a player that Buffalo would covet greatly. O'reilly, Eichel, Backlund would be a devastating centre depth. They have Josh Gorges coming off the books next year to offset what they would need to pay Backs.

If Calgary were to put Backs on the market I'd wager every team in the league would be interested. But I hope it never comes to that.

What does Girgensons get Calgary that they don't already have?

[Harry Lime]

Follow up to my above post, because I didn't want to muddy the waters.

Shoot for the Moon trade :

Backlund, Lazar, Versteeg and Wotherspoon,

for

Reinhart, Buffalo 1st, Girgensons.

Would you do it?

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

If Calgary were to put Backs on the market I'd wager every team in the league would be interested. But I hope it never comes to that.

What does Girgensons get Calgary that they don't already have?

Girgensons is a tough to play against bottom six player with a bit of offensive upside. The thought would be that if the bottom six isn't going to score, they might as well be hell to play against.

I wouldn't trade Backlund, but if Calgary came snooping around I would ask about trading for him.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Follow up to my above post, because I didn't want to muddy the waters.

Shoot for the Moon trade :

Backlund, Lazar, Versteeg and Wotherspoon,

for

Reinhart, Buffalo 1st, Girgensons.

Would you do it?

Nope, nope, nope.

I think you'd get better value from a contender.

Which is what the Flames are on the cusp of being, so why trade him unless he doesn't want to be here? He seems to love it here.

Very few trades involving Backlund are likely to make the Flames better now.

[Sandman]

Girgensons played in the all-star game a few years back, mostly due to heavy fan voting from his native Latvia.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Girgensons is a tough to play against bottom six player with a bit of offensive upside. The thought would be that if the bottom six isn't going to score, they might as well be hell to play against.

I wouldn't trade Backlund, but if Calgary came snooping around I would ask about trading for him.

Trade him and you will never get him back and your 2nd line could fall apart. I would keep him as long as possible he is a die hard Flames fan, what would trading him do for the stability of the team at this stage? The players would probably be shook up and go on a losing spell.

[Calgary4LIfe]

While I do think that Reinhart is soft, he is also incredibly smart and good on the defensive side of the puck. He would be a great add, but I hope not at the cost of Bennett.

I do think that depending on what player they may be targeting, some of the defensive prospects may be in play.

[djsFlames]

Didn't think about defense.

Brodie has been somewhat of a disaster in his own end and even on the PP (allowing teams to break in for shorties) which has been painful from a guy that's supposed to be fast. But still has value with his resume. Anyone from Buffalo we would want/is realistically attainable?

[RichKlit]

Would they possibly be looking at Pominville?

[Caged Great]

The only players I would be interested in are Eichel, O'Reilly, and Reinhart that's about it in terms of contracts.

Okposo or Pominville would be fine if the Sabres ate a portion and took Brouwer back (AKA not going to happen)

There are no higher end defensemen that would make sense for them to trade as Ristolainen is too good and unless the Flames are shuffling deck chairs, it just doesn't make a ton of sense for either side. The only trade there that would make sense is Hamilton for Risto and it seems like a pointless trade.

The goalies are both mediocre so there's nothing there.

So if the Flames are looking at a Sams trade, that could work I suppose. Bland trade though.

[Badgers Nose]

I'd rather have our Sam. I'm still clinging to the Killer 2.0 prophecy.

How long did Gilmour take to be good in St Louis?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_G...t._Louis_Blues

Not very long. He was good within 20 games and stayed that way.

And reading that wiki page I don't see any resemblance in their style of play, yet. Our Sam is no defensive force. I guess we tried to bring that out in him but after 1+ season of experimentation it's time to move on from hope of developing him into an elite centre.

Sam's killer instinct seems to be related only to the Flames having to kill more penalties when he takes bad penalties (although he has been better lately).

[1qqaaz]

Robin Lehner's career 91.7% save percentage is a lot better than Lack's 90.9%.
I would be fine with a Lehner acquisition if it was reasonable. Lehner had 92% in almost 60 games last year. 92.4% in 21 games the year before.

They would definitely be buying low. Lehner might still have some upside as well.