02-21-2020, 07:02 PM
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#101
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Pretty simple, i stated it earlier in this thread. The Flames need more offense from their defense. Barrie, in what is a bit of an off year for him, is still on pace for Brodies career high in points. Brodie has one goal this year.
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Not just this, but I find it ironic that so many think we have no shot in the playoffs because of the series against the Avs last year and Barrie was one of the guys that really torched us in that series.
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02-21-2020, 07:04 PM
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#102
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe
I believe what ails the Flames' D-corps the most is coaching. They weren't so hot under Gulutzan either, but took a massive step forward under Peters. I think this team plays way too slow, especially considering how mobile the defence is.
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Can they trade Brodie for a coach?
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02-21-2020, 07:31 PM
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#103
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
I cant believe what a #### show the Flames D has become.
Giordano is old, fallen off huge after his Norris
Brodie is a UFA and sounds like he's gone
Hamonic has underwhelmed and contract talks are going nowhere
Hanifin hasn't really taken a step forward
Valimaki has hardly played the last 2 or 3 seasons, who knows what we have in him
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I guess that’s the glass half empty view.
Me I see the promise and the age of players like Andersson, Valimaki, Kylington and Hanifin and think we’re in fantastic shape long term.
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02-21-2020, 09:14 PM
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#104
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Help, save, whatever.
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Aren't you guys really close to the cap too? Barrie is only 2.75 million this season while Brodie is 4.65.
That extra space on this season could let you add this trade deadline.
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02-21-2020, 09:17 PM
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#105
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by savemedrzaius
Aren't you guys really close to the cap too? Barrie is only 2.75 million this season while Brodie is 4.65.
That extra space on this season could let you add this trade deadline.
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The Flames have about $1.2 m of cap space. That should be plenty to work with for the remaining 20 games.
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02-21-2020, 09:20 PM
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#106
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
I guess that’s the glass half empty view.
Me I see the promise and the age of players like Andersson, Valimaki, Kylington and Hanifin and think we’re in fantastic shape long term.
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Valimaki's injuries worry me, Kylington has a long way to go and Hanifin hasn't progressed in his almost two seasons here at all.
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02-21-2020, 09:33 PM
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#107
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Can they trade Brodie for a coach?
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You really aren't very funny or witty.
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02-21-2020, 09:34 PM
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#108
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Help, save, whatever.
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
The Flames have about $1.2 m of cap space. That should be plenty to work with for the remaining 20 games.
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Is that enough to get an impact player though?
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02-21-2020, 09:36 PM
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#109
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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I am still fairly skeptical about the ceilings of Andersson, Kylington, Valimaki. Nothing against them really. It's just that since the 2008 draft (Brodie), the Flames have only drafted one 30+ point defenceman.
It's Adam Fox.
The trend will have to end soon if the Flames are going to have a good powerplay. This is why I am not as anti-Barrie as others here.
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02-21-2020, 09:37 PM
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#110
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Originally Posted by Crown Royal
Not just this, but I find it ironic that so many think we have no shot in the playoffs because of the series against the Avs last year and Barrie was one of the guys that really torched us in that series.
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I dont think Barrie torched us? MacKinnon, Rantanen, Landeskog, Makar and Zadorov all were miles ahead of Barrie in terms of impact on that series.
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Originally Posted by oilboimcdavid
Eakins wasn't a bad coach, the team just had 2 bad years, they should've been more patient.
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02-21-2020, 09:38 PM
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#111
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Flames need to make sure they have a pair of viable NHL top 4 defenders for next season to go with Giordano and Andersson. A Brodie for Barrie trade makes sense if they can keep him. Otherwise take the picks and go shopping at the draft.
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02-21-2020, 09:38 PM
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#112
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14
I dont think Barrie torched us? MacKinnon, Rantanen, Landeskog, Makar and Zadorov all were miles ahead of Barrie in terms of impact on that series.
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I myself noticed Barrie quite a bit that series and thought he was really impactful for the Avs.
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02-21-2020, 09:41 PM
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#113
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I believe in the Jays.
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Originally Posted by savemedrzaius
Is that enough to get an impact player though?
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No... but an extra 1.9M acquired by downgrading from Brodie wouldn't be enough either.
Barrie for Brodie is a dumb idea. As part of a larger deal maybe... but 1 for 1? Hard pass.
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02-21-2020, 09:46 PM
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#114
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Parallex
No... but an extra 1.9M acquired by downgrading from Brodie wouldn't be enough either.
Barrie for Brodie is a dumb idea. As part of a larger deal maybe... but 1 for 1? Hard pass.
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Sure, but if Tre can't come to terms with Brodie and can extend Barrie to something reasonable with term. It's not the worst idea, maybe there is a pick coming to Calgary too? Never know. Better than losing Brodie for nothing IMO
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02-21-2020, 09:51 PM
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#115
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Scoring Winger
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Rather nothing. Tired of Toronto raping us.
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
Sure, but if Tre can't come to terms with Brodie and can extend Barrie to something reasonable with term. It's not the worst idea, maybe there is a pick coming to Calgary too? Never know. Better than losing Brodie for nothing IMO
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02-21-2020, 10:08 PM
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#116
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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After choking back the vomit and thinking about it, I could really see Barrie fitting in. He's good for a lot more offense than Brodie, plus he shoots right.
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02-21-2020, 10:12 PM
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#117
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Help, save, whatever.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Parallex
No... but an extra 1.9M acquired by downgrading from Brodie wouldn't be enough either.
Barrie for Brodie is a dumb idea. As part of a larger deal maybe... but 1 for 1? Hard pass.
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1.2 plus 1.9 so 3.1 million. What ever player you get counts for 25% of his cap hit for the rest of the season if I'm not mistaken.
So with 1.2 million you can acquire a player with a 4 million cap hot tops roughly.
With 3.1 you could acquire a player with 12 million cap hit for the year. Opens your options quite a bit.
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02-21-2020, 10:19 PM
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#118
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#1 Goaltender
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I don't really get this trade unless part 2 is using the cap space savings from this trade and from the frolik trade to get a high end forward like getzlaf or Hall.
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02-21-2020, 10:20 PM
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#119
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GullFoss
I don't really get this trade unless part 2 is using the cap space savings from this trade and from the frolik trade to get a high end forward like getzlaf or Hall.
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Getzlaf has been open about the fact that he is not leaving Anaheim.
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02-21-2020, 10:21 PM
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#120
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Franchise Player
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If it is true that Brodie will not re-sign with the Flames - IF it is true - then I guess I would be fine with this trade as it is better than letting a valuable asset like Brodie walk for free. Would be a different story if the Flames were comfortably leading the division and looking like a contender, then it would be acceptable to lose that asset for free. I still think one-for-one is fairly lopsided in Toronto's favour, but something is better than nothing, and it isn't out of the realm of possibility that Barrie can be coached into being more solid in his own end. You can't really teach his offensive ability, but you can coach a player to be more defensively sound I think.
Barrie is going to get eaten alive on these boards with his play in the defensive zone. Maybe that's overblown, but he is definitely not as good defensively as Brodie.
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