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Old 11-19-2018, 04:24 PM   #581
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I seem to recall Gaudreau getting a broken hand with Engelland in the line up.

What a deterant!
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Old 11-19-2018, 04:24 PM   #582
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When you score 2 goals a year you ARE a 4th line plug. Even if you make $7 million/year
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Old 11-19-2018, 04:25 PM   #583
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This topic has always been polarizing, but here is the thing.

Our top scorer gets sent to the quiet room after a cheap play. Misses a period of play.
He then gets sucker punched and ragdolled by the biggest POS dirt bag on our biggest rival.
Our smallest star gets run head first in to the boards.
Our captain gets dumped by our biggest rival's goon.

And our answer is to take a PP? Or depend on the refs to protect our players?

Yikes. Some plan. We will be lucky to stay healthy at this rate. Good luck winning in the playoffs.
Gotta play through it. Crap reffing and all. And I dare say the Flames doth protest too much to the refs on a nightly basis which is going screw them. It's a gear grinder I have with a guy like Gaudreau. Shut the yap and use that anger toward putting the puck in the net. It's rare these days you're going to come across that kind of goonery. At the end of the day, the Flames depth and skill took over and won.

Sure it'd be nice to have Big Ern or Engelland out there patrolling the waters but those days are gone.



Best thing to do is beat them on the scoresheet and show them its doesn't matter what you try, we're going to take 2 points.
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There is absolutely no way you can make that claim and substantiate it.
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Do you really think Tkachuk got ragged dolled? I think he set the whole thing up and knew exactly what was going to happen as soon as the puck was dropped. Tkachuk didn't get jumped, he suckered an idiot into a stupid play.

And yes, every scrum with McDavid on the ice someone went at him, Lucic did nothing to stop that.
Tkachuk has said he knew exactly what he was doing.
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Old 11-19-2018, 04:26 PM   #585
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I was actually thinking about this the other night with all the rhetoric coming from the Oilers nation about the response if Tkachuk isn't going to fight Kassian needs to be targeting Gaudreau.

While true the Flames don't have the playing toughness to match up to the Oilers right now, if they wanted to go down the we'll go after your best guy strategy, that's one they will lose quickly with the Flames. We are a much deeper team, take out one of our best, we still have at least 4 other top 6 forwards in our line up. Take out McD, the Oilers are left with a couple of arguably Top 6 forwards left in their line up, one of which has yet to prove he can do anything when not riding shot gun with McD.
This makes way more sense to me than having a plug sit on the bench and "even the score" after Johnny gets killed. If vigilante justice is the only way to keep the peace out there, just let it be known that Hathaway has no problem with a suspension by breaking McDavid's wrist with a two handed slash if their two plugs want to act like cavemen.
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Old 11-19-2018, 04:29 PM   #586
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Tkachuk has said he knew exactly what he was doing.
You're right, I think it was the Francis article were he talks about the Kassian situation and why he did what he did.
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Old 11-19-2018, 04:33 PM   #587
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You're right, I think it was the Francis article were he talks about the Kassian situation and why he did what he did.
I read it in a Kristen Anderson article.
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Tkachuk has said he knew exactly what he was doing.
Fan960 just played a clip from Tkachuk on FAN960 about the whole thing. Go to the 7:00 mark.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/960/pinder-...-dubes-future/
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Spoiler!
I read this all on Saturday, but I had a bad day today so I had to read it again.

Thank you Gaskal! Thank you Oilers fans! Thank you Calgary Flames!
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Do you really think Tkachuk got ragged dolled? I think he set the whole thing up and knew exactly what was going to happen as soon as the puck was dropped. Tkachuk didn't get jumped, he suckered an idiot into a stupid play.

And yes, every scrum with McDavid on the ice someone went at him, Lucic did nothing to stop that.
Yes, Lucic did. Near the end of the game there was a scrum and Tkachuk was on McDavid. Lucic immediately took on Tkachuk, which allowed McDavid to get up and go stand in the corner (until Bennett came over and grabbed his collar).
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Old 11-19-2018, 05:26 PM   #591
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I view getting the win as the response.
Which is ridiculous. They very well might not have won - and had the Oil scored on any of the 2nd period breakaways, they would almost certainly not have won.

How would your response have looked then?

The next game is likely to be even rougher. Not having a response ready could be potentially dangerous to some of the guys.
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Which is ridiculous. They very well might not have won - and had the Oil scored on any of the 2nd period breakaways, they would almost certainly not have won.

How would your response have looked then?

The next game is likely to be even rougher. Not having a response ready could be potentially dangerous to some of the guys.

How is it ridiculous. I think the Oilers got off their game by trying to "get to" Tkachuk. When the Flames responded in the Canucks game they lost the game and a dman. That worked well!


I don't think the presence of an enforcer changes how Kassian plays. Frankly he's too much of an idiot to stop and think about anything he does on the ice and the consequences of it.

It was isolated stupidity. I don't think the Flames should or need to be drawn into that.


Win the game. Finish higher than them in the standings.


That's what matters.
Who wins the so-called fight in the alleys? Meh - I don't care.

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Old 11-19-2018, 05:38 PM   #593
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It was isolated stupidity. I don't think the Flames should or need to be drawn into that.


Win the game. Finish hire then them in the standings.


That's what matters.
Who wins the so-called fight in the alleys? Meh - I don't care.
Ironic Isolated Stupidity eheh.

It seems odd how so many of the Oiler media guys are trashing Tkachuk.
Something seems weird about 50+ year olds insulting a 20 year old.

I don't know, maybe that's just me.
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How is it ridiculous. I think the Oilers got off their game by trying to "get to" Tkachuk. When the Flames responded in the Canucks game they lost the game and a dman. That worked well!


I don't think the presence of an enforcer changes how Kassian plays. Frankly he's too much of an idiot to stop and think about anything he does on the ice and the consequences of it.

It was isolated stupidity. I don't think the Flames should or need to be drawn into that.


Win the game. Finish hire then them in the standings.


That's what matters.
Who wins the so-called fight in the alleys? Meh - I don't care.
The bolded, like scoring on the PP, is not a response. Every team is trying to do that anyway, regardless of these types of events, and there is nothing more a team can do about it as a result of these types of events. It's not like they are sitting around, unsure of whether or not to bother winning the game, and then decide "hey, they tried to goon Johnny - that's it, we should in this damn game!"
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Old 11-19-2018, 06:05 PM   #595
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That was the best hockey game I’ve watched in probably 10+ years. I wish I had recorded it. I’d watch the entire thing again.
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Old 11-19-2018, 06:21 PM   #596
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Man you are a funny guy.

You should take this act on the road.

Or do you have anything of substance to add to the discussion?

Actually I already know the answer to that...carry on with your nonsense.
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I wonder if you asked the players what they would say about having some toughness on the ice the other night. I have a feeling they would’ve liked to have someone there that could drop the gloves with Kassian and Lucic.

If they said they didn’t want it, then I’ll buy it. But I bet they would say yes.
Yeah but that's another narrative from those opposed to physical hockey...the whole "players aren't the ones who should have a say because...."
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Old 11-19-2018, 08:21 PM   #598
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Man you are a funny guy.



You should take this act on the road.



Or do you have anything of substance to add to the discussion?



Actually I already know the answer to that...carry on with your nonsense.


Thanks!

As others have said, I’ll take that result on Saturday versus putting an enforcer in and playing 4 minutes of ice time in order to “respond” every day and twice on Sunday. The Oilers looked like the fools on Saturday, not us.
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