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Old 11-18-2019, 07:19 PM   #1
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Broken out from the ongoing Sam thread, and timely as THN is out with their definitions in their latest edition.

They use a few different terms, but I find the framework interesting

Bust:
- Top 3 picks who don't reach 700 games
- Top 5 picks who don't reach 500
- First rounders who don't reach 200

Super-bust
- Player fails to reach 100

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Old 11-18-2019, 07:20 PM   #2
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Old 11-18-2019, 07:22 PM   #3
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The over hyped dude that Ottawa took first overall back in the mid '90's.


Don't remember his name.
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Old 11-18-2019, 07:23 PM   #4
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The over hyped dude that Ottawa took first overall back in the mid '90's.


Don't remember his name.
Alexandre Daigle
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The over hyped dude that Ottawa took first overall back in the mid '90's.


Don't remember his name.
Alexandre Daigle?
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Old 11-18-2019, 07:38 PM   #8
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Broken out from the ongoing Sam thread, and timely as THN is out with their definitions in their latest edition.

They use a few different terms, but I find the framework interesting

Bust:
- Top 3 picks who don't reach 700 games
- Top 5 picks who don't reach 500
- First rounders who don't reach 200

Super-bust
- Player fails to reach 100

Wash-out
- Player fails to reach 10
Top 3/5 picks (fwds) probably need a ppg associated with them

I'd consider a top 3 fwd that can't average more than half a point per game to be a bust notwithstanding games played

Defence would be different obviously
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Old 11-18-2019, 07:42 PM   #9
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Old 11-18-2019, 08:47 PM   #11
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Really depends on the player, what their skills are tabled as, and where they end up.

Bennett will definitely reach 500 games over his career, and probably even the 700. 700 games as a 3rd line winger however is still bust-y compared to the 1st line center we believed he would be.
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Old 11-18-2019, 09:36 PM   #13
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The joke was that Daigle once said no one remembers who gets drafted second... which was HHOF player Chris Pronger.
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I think it is a top 10 who really doesn't make the show. I can think of a ton of players (especially D) that get drafted top 10 and then never make it.

We all know about Daigle and Fata etc but what about more recent guys?

2012
Yakupov
Reinhart
Pouilot
Koekkoek

2013
Samuel Morin (had to use his full name)

2014
Michael Dal Colle
Haydn Fleury (bubble bust)

2016
Olli Juolevi (too soon?)

You get my point.
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The joke was that Daigle once said no one remembers who gets drafted second... which was HHOF player Chris Pronger.
Actually he is right!

I bet more people will remember Daigle as a 1st overall bust than Chris Pronger being taken 2nd overall that year...
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