11-24-2019, 10:41 AM
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#61
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: North Vancouver
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Originally Posted by dino7c
The Blues are weak? Healthy Colorado?
Oilers couldn't beat either of these teams in a 7 game series. Playoffs often come down to depth.
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Yup. Depth and elite goaltending, and the Oilers don't have either. McDingus and Drai might be able to drag that garbage roster into the playoffs. But once they get there, my guess is they're likely done in 6 games or less.
Teams that win cups are able to roll 4 lines consistently, and the Oil can only roll 1. And considering the ridiculous amount of ice time that McDrai logs on a nightly basis, I predict that those two will be completely burned out by game 70.
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11-24-2019, 10:42 AM
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#62
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Van City - Main St.
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
McDavid will probably win a Stanley Cup eventually, but not until after Edmonton is permanently in his rearview mirror.
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Let's all hope so.
I'm with the poster above. I think its inevitable that he wins one, just a matter of when & where.
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11-24-2019, 10:52 AM
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#63
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by djsFlames
Why should it?
We didn't have the option to draft Draisaitl. He was off the table. So what does it matter?
It's different if we were the Canucks passing on Tkachuk when he was the obvious option and available. That's when it hurts. That was not the case for the Flames.
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He has a point.
It sucks not because Draisatl wasn't an option but because when you're drafting one spot later you would expect a player that has somewhat similar upside. Instead we get to watch a guy who's an irrelevant bottom six player.
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11-24-2019, 11:14 AM
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#64
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by direwolf
Yup. Depth and elite goaltending, and the Oilers don't have either. McDingus and Drai might be able to drag that garbage roster into the playoffs. But once they get there, my guess is they're likely done in 6 games or less.
Teams that win cups are able to roll 4 lines consistently, and the Oil can only roll 1. And considering the ridiculous amount of ice time that McDrai logs on a nightly basis, I predict that those two will be completely burned out by game 70.
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Their best situation is likely to clinch a playoff spot early and rest McDavid and Draisaitl during the season ending home stand. At least the Oilers don't have to travel during the last three weeks of the schedule (except for their final game in Calgary.)
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11-24-2019, 11:16 AM
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#65
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
Better player gets taken before lesser player. More at 11.
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He was not the better player though. Bennett was projected to be a top 3 pick. Draistal was known for skating issues etc. So the difference should of been marginal not one guy became a 50 goal scorer and one is not even a top 6 forward.
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11-24-2019, 11:21 AM
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#66
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#1 Goaltender
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I’m fairly certain the Flames would have taken Bennett at number 3. In fact I recall there was some excitement about him falling to us at 4.
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11-24-2019, 11:37 AM
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#67
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Originally Posted by djsFlames
Why should it?
We didn't have the option to draft Draisaitl. He was off the table. So what does it matter?
It's different if we were the Canucks passing on Tkachuk when he was the obvious option and available. That's when it hurts. That was not the case for the Flames.
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It only matters because of the difference between the 2. I was really excited during the draft, I really thought we got the better player. Had Bennett even turned into half of the offensive output of Draisaitl it would be easier to swallow.
It's the pits that we haven't managed to pick up a game breaking player in the first round. I just looked at the flames first round selections and since 1985 the best we have to show for it is Tkachuk, Monahan and Phaneuf. That's not exactly stellar.
So to get a 3rd to 4th line grinder with little offensive upside is a kick in the pants.
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Originally Posted by oilboimcdavid
Eakins wasn't a bad coach, the team just had 2 bad years, they should've been more patient.
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11-24-2019, 11:46 AM
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#68
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by kukkudo
He was not the better player though. Bennett was projected to be a top 3 pick .
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By who? Obviously not Edmonton, that’s my point.
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11-24-2019, 11:51 AM
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#69
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
By who? Obviously not Edmonton, that’s my point.
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Everyone who put out draft projections had Bennett above Draisaitl, including some very knowledgeable hockey minds.
http://www.mynhldraft.com/2014-nhl-d...pect-rankings/
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Originally Posted by oilboimcdavid
Eakins wasn't a bad coach, the team just had 2 bad years, they should've been more patient.
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11-24-2019, 12:02 PM
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#70
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14
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Well, looks like they were wrong
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11-24-2019, 12:20 PM
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#71
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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They were, so were the flames, and it's embarrassing
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Originally Posted by oilboimcdavid
Eakins wasn't a bad coach, the team just had 2 bad years, they should've been more patient.
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11-24-2019, 01:07 PM
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#73
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Franchise Player
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If it was up to me he’d get many games for that egregious attempt to injure.
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11-24-2019, 01:08 PM
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#74
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14
They were, so were the flames, and it's embarrassing
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That's drafting...Oilers have a recent #1 overall and #4 overall that aren't even in the NHL.
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GFG
Last edited by dino7c; 11-24-2019 at 01:10 PM.
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11-24-2019, 01:20 PM
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#75
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Lifetime Suspension
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Imagine being personally embarrassed about what a professional sports team does.
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11-24-2019, 02:07 PM
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#76
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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11-24-2019, 03:09 PM
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#77
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Nanaimo
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Originally Posted by AC
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Man he has a problem using his stick as a weapon. He does have a hearing scheduled at least.
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11-25-2019, 07:03 AM
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#78
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Franchise Player
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Remember this, TSN stands for Toronto's Sports Network! 
MOD EDIT: Removed broken image link.
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11-25-2019, 08:30 AM
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#79
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14
They were, so were the flames, and it's embarrassing
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This is not a very good argument. First, the Oilers picked Draisaitl because he was supposedly bigger, which they felt they needed. And that as about the extent of the analysis for that sad sack scouting crew.
Second, the Flames went by the book, which sometimes doesn't work (Yakupov) but usually works better than thinking you are smarter than the conventional wisdom (Jankowski, Juolevi, almost all of Sutter's first rounders).
Third, why is it embarrassing to do what everyone else would have done? It's embarrassing to do what others wouldn't and have it blow up. But exactly who is pointing the finger at Calgary and saying they would have picked someone else (especially since you have to go 4 more picks to get to anyone who's done any better. You only get to 8 and 9 for Nylander and Ehlers, and after that you have to 15 to get to Larkin. The rest between are meh.
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