04-19-2019, 10:17 AM
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Series Metrics Through Four Games - Individual
Yeah not good news.
All ranks are stats per 60 minutes.
Lots of blue on the Flames, lots of red on the Avalanche.
Table shows you ice time, split of ice time, corsi, and then series ranks in an average of generation stats, prevention stats and individual stats.
Thoughts:
1. Interesting to see how "blue" the bottom six are for Calgary. Depth hasn't been depth. Bottom half outplayed as much as top half has been outplayed by their counterparts.
2. McKinnon 6th for generation (on ice), and 1st as individual.
3. Andersson (sheltered), and Valimaki (sheltered and limited time) both positives.
4. Flames top line giving up way too much (29th, 31st and 39th in prevention), but individually they tend to individually get things done. So outplayed but scoring chances. Doing it differently though, Gaudreau is way back in shot attempts, but good in scoring chances, Lindholm good in shot attempts, but nothing dangerous.
5. Garnet Hathaway 2nd on the team in high danger chances per 60 minutes played. That's not a good sign.
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04-19-2019, 10:25 AM
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Franchise Player
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Barf. Which column is the high danger chances?
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04-19-2019, 10:25 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Ugh
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04-19-2019, 10:31 AM
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Barf. Which column is the high danger chances?
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None.
Generation is the rank of the series average ranks for shot attempts for, scoring chances for and high danger chances for.
Same on the prevention side.
Individual is the same, rank of averages of all three on the for side.
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04-19-2019, 10:45 AM
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Here is the rank for high danger chances for in the series in order for Calgary.
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Player rHDCF
Mark Giordano 5
Mikael Backlund 6
TJ Brodie 7
Michael Frolik 10
Matthew Tkachuk 11
R Andersson 13
Sean Monahan 17
A Mangiapane 17
Johnny Gaudreau 21
Noah Hanifin 22
Derek Ryan 25
James Neal 25
Travis Hamonic 25
Elias Lindholm 25
Garnet Hathaway 25
Sam Bennett 33
Juuso Valimaki 33
O Fantenberg 37
Mark Jankowski 38
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04-19-2019, 10:46 AM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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That 3rd line...yeesh.
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04-19-2019, 10:49 AM
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First Line Centre
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every single line getting run over, but jankowski... good god, why is he still in the lineup?
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04-19-2019, 10:51 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jore
every single line getting run over, but jankowski... good god, why is he still in the lineup?
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because Peters has used so few PKers this season that he has painted himself into a corner on Janko. Not trying Bennett, Mangiapane or Czarnik on the kill back in November/December/January is coming to a head in April.
Maybe next year he tries some other guys on the PK.
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04-19-2019, 10:51 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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is individual stats points/60
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04-19-2019, 10:54 AM
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
because Peters has used so few PKers this season that he has painted himself into a corner on Janko. Not trying Bennett, Mangiapane or Czarnik on the kill back in November/December is coming to a head in April.
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doesn't huska run the pk? they had a mediocre to bad 78% pk in the regular season, it's not even like jankowski was good on the pk. he's scored some goals but he's not fast, tenacious, or good in battles.
pk hasn't exactly looked like a threat to score against colorado
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04-19-2019, 11:21 AM
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Samonadreau
is individual stats points/60
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No individual events as an average for each player.
So Gaudreau is 8th in the series in individual shot attempts, 9th in individual scoring chances and 9th in high danger scoring chances.
Average rank 9th in the series.
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04-19-2019, 11:28 AM
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First Line Centre
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I may not understand the scoring chances statcorrectly, but shouldn’t Jankowski be expected to have higher chances given the amount of pk time he plays?
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04-19-2019, 11:34 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jore
doesn't huska run the pk? they had a mediocre to bad 78% pk in the regular season, it's not even like jankowski was good on the pk. he's scored some goals but he's not fast, tenacious, or good in battles.
pk hasn't exactly looked like a threat to score against colorado
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Yeah the PK has been very passive against the Avs, probably giving them too much respect.
I will say that regular season PK stats mean very little as long as you're not blatantly DFL. The sample size is too small and influenced by random variance.
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04-19-2019, 11:38 AM
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wwkayaker
I may not understand the scoring chances statcorrectly, but shouldn’t Jankowski be expected to have higher chances given the amount of pk time he plays?
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This is five on five only
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04-19-2019, 12:10 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
Here is the rank for high danger chances for in the series in order for Calgary.
Code:
Player rHDCF
Mark Giordano 5
Mikael Backlund 6
TJ Brodie 7
Michael Frolik 10
Matthew Tkachuk 11
R Andersson 13
Sean Monahan 17
A Mangiapane 17
Johnny Gaudreau 21
Noah Hanifin 22
Derek Ryan 25
James Neal 25
Travis Hamonic 25
Elias Lindholm 25
Garnet Hathaway 25
Sam Bennett 33
Juuso Valimaki 33
O Fantenberg 37
Mark Jankowski 38
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Is that per 60, or just a gross number that will be impacted by icetime? Either way, seems Mangiapane is out performing expectations.
And while Brodie has had some obvious gaffes, which certainly count for more than advanced stats when the puck ends up in your net, he does seem to be holding his own compared to the other D besides Gio.
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04-19-2019, 12:14 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
So ... Calgary has been getting badly outshot.
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Wow, you most really know how to analyze statistics to come up with piercing insight like that.
I think I see it the same way - stats like this only really serve to backup what is dead obvious to anyone watching. Calgary outplayed and outshot, and has a number of players that are really performing poorly, and Janko is maybe at the top of that list.
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04-19-2019, 12:17 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Hopefully Bennet on top line works, and he is/was being dragged down by Janko and Neal - because is is every bit as bad as they are, according to this.
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04-19-2019, 12:30 PM
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jore
every single line getting run over, but jankowski... good god, why is he still in the lineup?
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Who the heck is going to replace him?
Lazar is the most experienced NHL centreman we have in reserve and he's not that experienced and has probably played more wing than centre.
I guess you could move Bennett to centre. It all seems quite drastic. Who's to say Neal wasn't dragging Janko down? Jankowski has not been that bad IMO. He was one of our best PKers this season. And he's a young guy that we want to continue to develop and grow and these playoffs are his first and a big experience for him.
I think you stick with your centremen. There are no better options. Wing and defense are areas that Peters has a lot of flexibility. I'd argue we don't really have any flexibility at centre when healthy. There's a clearcut top 4 and it would be foolish to move away from that IMO.
Last edited by Flames Draft Watcher; 04-19-2019 at 12:33 PM.
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04-19-2019, 05:12 PM
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Is that per 60, or just a gross number that will be impacted by icetime? Either way, seems Mangiapane is out performing expectations.
And while Brodie has had some obvious gaffes, which certainly count for more than advanced stats when the puck ends up in your net, he does seem to be holding his own compared to the other D besides Gio.
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Series rank out of skaters on both teams based on metrics per 60 minutes.
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