04-20-2024, 09:38 PM
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#2181
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by dammage79
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22 teams passed on Iginla?
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04-20-2024, 09:54 PM
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#2182
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
That would be amazing.
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In many ways, especially Iginla going 23rd to the Leafs
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04-20-2024, 10:03 PM
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#2183
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jg13
22 teams passed on Iginla?
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In that sim, yep.
It's different every time you run it.
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04-20-2024, 10:28 PM
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#2184
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by dammage79
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My god, that would be amazing.
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04-20-2024, 11:29 PM
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#2185
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Draft Pick
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Originally Posted by Samonadreau
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As with everyone else, would obviously be thrilled with any of Celebrini, Demidov, Catton, Iginla, Yakemchuk, Parekh, Buium, Dickinson or Lindstrom.
Just an uncommon opinion, and not that they would be available at our spot, but I have doubts about a few players in the top 10, particularly Artyom Levshunov. I've really tried hard to see what is so special about Artyom Levshunov, because he's consistently ranked so highly. I mean he skates well and seems to have an impressive build, but that sportsnet article has him ranked 2nd in the draft which is bewildering to me. There's just so many better players (I think anyways ). Offensively, it seems all too often, his passes cause teammates to consistently readjust their positioning, and aren't overly creative or difficult. His shot isn't anything to beholden of either in terms of accuracy or power. Defensively, I've read of his improvements since arriving at Michigan State, but even that shouldn't warrant a 2nd overall selection either. Despite his mobilty, he seems to get beaten to spots in the defensive end, even when he has a headstart to the puck in anticipating where it's going. It just seems like he might be player along the lines of an Eric Brewer or Seth Jones, two other mobile and hulking defencemen, that were/are nice pieces, but lack star ceilings mostly because of their puck skill level. Is he really deserving of 2nd or even 3rd overall? His comparable on some sites is Alex Pietrangelo, but he appears to be much less talented with the puck, which has me leaning towards putting him in the Eric Brewer/Seth Jones tier. Decent, but I have a feeling when its all said and done, there will be quite a few better players from this draft who should have been chosen ahead of him. I just think any selection in the top 5 and perhaps even top 10 will end up being too high for choosing him. Anyways, it'll be interesting to revisit this in the coming years.
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04-21-2024, 12:50 AM
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#2186
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Major Major
I think some people are missing is that Tij is a few weeks away from being a '25 pick. He's younger than 90+% of players in this draft.
Imagine if he were putting up this kind of season in his D-1 year. Where would people be slotting him in next year? Top 5? Top 3?
This is also why I'm pretty high on Celibrini. Don't think he'd type average 1oa.
Anyway, if we get him at 9, we would be lucky. It won't be a reach at all. Here's hoping.
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The experts who are ranking him outside the top 10 are not missing that though.
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04-21-2024, 01:22 AM
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#2187
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
In many ways, especially Iginla going 23rd to the Leafs
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I was obviously referring to us landing both Demidov and Hage. I didn't look to see where Iginla went until you mentioned it.
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04-21-2024, 02:42 AM
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#2188
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Tibnadian_tpd
As with everyone else, would obviously be thrilled with any of Celebrini, Demidov, Catton, Iginla, Yakemchuk, Parekh, Buium, Dickinson or Lindstrom.
Just an uncommon opinion, and not that they would be available at our spot, but I have doubts about a few players in the top 10, particularly Artyom Levshunov. I've really tried hard to see what is so special about Artyom Levshunov, because he's consistently ranked so highly. I mean he skates well and seems to have an impressive build, but that sportsnet article has him ranked 2nd in the draft which is bewildering to me. There's just so many better players (I think anyways ). Offensively, it seems all too often, his passes cause teammates to consistently readjust their positioning, and aren't overly creative or difficult. His shot isn't anything to beholden of either in terms of accuracy or power. Defensively, I've read of his improvements since arriving at Michigan State, but even that shouldn't warrant a 2nd overall selection either. Despite his mobilty, he seems to get beaten to spots in the defensive end, even when he has a headstart to the puck in anticipating where it's going. It just seems like he might be player along the lines of an Eric Brewer or Seth Jones, two other mobile and hulking defencemen, that were/are nice pieces, but lack star ceilings mostly because of their puck skill level. Is he really deserving of 2nd or even 3rd overall? His comparable on some sites is Alex Pietrangelo, but he appears to be much less talented with the puck, which has me leaning towards putting him in the Eric Brewer/Seth Jones tier. Decent, but I have a feeling when its all said and done, there will be quite a few better players from this draft who should have been chosen ahead of him. I just think any selection in the top 5 and perhaps even top 10 will end up being too high for choosing him. Anyways, it'll be interesting to revisit this in the coming years.
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I've never even seen a clip of his play but I was told recently he has outstanding vision and passing skills to go along with his skating, problem is he doesn't have a lot of talent around him in Michigan or his offensive numbers might be thru the roof, comparisons to McAvoy might be right.
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04-21-2024, 07:03 AM
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#2189
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First Line Centre
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Levshunov is better compared to a Tyler Myers than a Petrangelo, he’s got a very limited offensive upside from my viewing over the last few months. Brewer was another good comparison, at least for now. I know some say he’s got no support, but if you watch some tape there’s lots of questionable puck choices every game.
Skating is there, but I don’t see him being a value pick in the top 5-8 imo let alone #2. He’s behind both Parekh and Buium in my mind, maybe slightly behind Dickinson.
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04-21-2024, 08:24 AM
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#2190
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Royle9
Levshunov is better compared to a Tyler Myers than a Petrangelo, he’s got a very limited offensive upside from my viewing over the last few months. Brewer was another good comparison, at least for now. I know some say he’s got no support, but if you watch some tape there’s lots of questionable puck choices every game.
Skating is there, but I don’t see him being a value pick in the top 5-8 imo let alone #2. He’s behind both Parekh and Buium in my mind, maybe slightly behind Dickinson.
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To me buium, and Parehk have more chance if finding their defensive game than levshunov of his offensive game. For me the defencemen rank.
Dickinson
Buium
Parehk/yakemchuk
Sylaev
Levshunov
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04-21-2024, 09:15 AM
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#2191
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Mar 2024
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
The heater that saw them go 5-5?
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Sure given the situation. When you're a bottom third team and hoping to draft higher going .500 is hot given the context.
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04-21-2024, 09:20 AM
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#2192
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by BigThief
Sure given the situation. When you're a bottom third team and hoping to draft higher going .500 is hot given the context.
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Not with the teams they were playing. It’s not like they beat playoff teams to go .500. Expecting to lose to SJ twice, Anaheim, and the coyotes was never realistic
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04-21-2024, 10:21 AM
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#2193
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First Line Centre
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I’ve got;
Parekh
Buium
Dickinson
Yakemchuk/Levshunov
Silayev
Only because Buium holds the US factor, and he’s been very vocal about his love for the US internationally. Yes I know he’s got Israeli roots but he was born in Cali and has flourished in US hockey.
The only way I draft him is if he signs immediately and forgoes the college loophole option.
I think his game is more rounded where I think Parekh is more offensively minded.
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04-21-2024, 10:23 AM
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#2194
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
Not with the teams they were playing. It’s not like they beat playoff teams to go .500. Expecting to lose to SJ twice, Anaheim, and the coyotes was never realistic
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Absolutely correct. The Coyotes game was the only one that maybe they “should have” lost. I was at that game and the Flames were dreadful for most of it. Coyotes tanked a little harder that day.
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04-21-2024, 11:01 AM
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#2195
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Truculent!
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Sandy, thoughts on Alfons Freij?
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04-21-2024, 11:06 AM
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#2196
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Mar 2024
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Originally Posted by Bonded
Not with the teams they were playing. It’s not like they beat playoff teams to go .500. Expecting to lose to SJ twice, Anaheim, and the coyotes was never realistic
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That's fair, I've been checked out the last quarter and only watched game 82 of the last stretch.
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04-21-2024, 11:09 AM
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#2197
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Royle9
I’ve got;
Parekh
Buium
Dickinson
Yakemchuk/Levshunov
Silayev
Only because Buium holds the US factor, and he’s been very vocal about his love for the US internationally. Yes I know he’s got Israeli roots but he was born in Cali and has flourished in US hockey.
The only way I draft him is if he signs immediately and forgoes the college loophole option.
I think his game is more rounded where I think Parekh is more offensively minded.
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Virtually no chance a guy like Buium goes to UFA. He would need to do 5 years in college. Players like this are on a fast track to pro hockey.
Long term though who knows.
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04-21-2024, 11:13 AM
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#2198
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Franchise Player
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Fun story with 3 mocks in 1:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...i/73400282007/
BR gives the Flames: Yakemchuk
Lines.com gives the Flames: Demidov,
BN gives them Flames: Iginla
Note that for some reason they have the Flames at 8. lame.
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04-21-2024, 11:13 AM
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#2199
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Demidov and Hage? Oh yes please.
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04-21-2024, 11:17 AM
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#2200
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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If the Flames get Demidov I will be so excited I will get a raging.....heart rate!
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