Building The 2018/19 Flames Roster

[Harry Lime]

Bennett - Monahan - Gaudreau
Tkachuk - Backlund - Foo
Mangiapane - Jankowski - Frolik
Klimchuk - Shore - Lazar
Hathaway

Gio - Hamilton
Kulak - Hamonic
Kyllington - Andersson
Wotherspoon

Smith
Rittich

So, that's the team if we trade Ferland, Brodie, Brouwer and Stone for nothing but picks.

It is wrong that I like this team WAY better than the one we iced all of last year?

[bax]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Man its gonna be funny when you have to get that back tattoo haha.

In the guys line up I doubt hes got JT playing "behind" Monahan its just in that scenario we would basically have two number one lines and he left gaudreau and monahan together because they already have clear chemistry.

Thanks Roof-Daddy, you nailed it. It's just fun to mess around with the possibility of Tavares coming here no matter how big of a long shot it is.

In my mind it doesn't matter what order the lines are in- Gaudreau and Monahan would play in different situations than Tkachuk and Tavares. It's not about which line is 1 and which one is 2. Man, what a luxury that would be for Bill Peters.

Gaudreau and Monahan = offensive zone situations
Tkachuk and Tavares = any situation- just play them alot
Backlund and Frolik = shutdown line

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Bennett - Monahan - Gaudreau
Tkachuk - Backlund - Foo
Mangiapane - Jankowski - Frolik
Klimchuk - Shore - Lazar
Hathaway

Gio - Hamilton
Kulak - Hamonic
Kyllington - Andersson
Wotherspoon

Smith
Rittich

So, that's the team if we trade Ferland, Brodie, Brouwer and Stone for nothing but picks.

It is wrong that I like this team WAY better than the one we iced all of last year?

Where is the improvement? People overvalue what we have in Stockton way too much. There is very little evidence that Foo is a legit NHLer right now, he might be, but we don't know. I'd certainly feel more comfortable with Ferland in the lineup. Klimchuk? He has done FA, don't even know if he's better than Brouwer... at least the cap hit is better. Brodie >> Kulak, Kylington may not be ready. Andersson is young and is very likely to have some growing pains this season if he's on the roster... putting him with Kylington would probably be a disaster. Our lineup last year was certainly better. With that said I do hope one of Foo/Dube/Mangiapane make the roster. And I'm pretty certain Andersson has a spot if he has a good training camp.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Bennett - Monahan - Gaudreau
Tkachuk - Backlund - Foo
Mangiapane - Jankowski - Frolik
Klimchuk - Shore - Lazar
Hathaway

Gio - Hamilton
Kulak - Hamonic
Kyllington - Andersson
Wotherspoon

Smith
Rittich

So, that's the team if we trade Ferland, Brodie, Brouwer and Stone for nothing but picks.

It is wrong that I like this team WAY better than the one we iced all of last year?

It's not necessarily wrong for you to think this way, but that is team is worse than last year's team.

[Harry Lime]

I could give my reasoning on why this lineup is an improvement, but there is still so much lingering negativity over last season.

All I'm saying is that you can field a roster like this, that would perform roughly the same, and be waaaaaay more entertaining.

You could drop a maxmax Taveras on this roster, and still have space left over.

[Stanley]

Just get ROR
Trade Hamilton if you have to

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Bennett - Monahan - Gaudreau
Tkachuk - Backlund - Foo
Mangiapane - Jankowski - Frolik
Klimchuk - Shore - Lazar
Hathaway

Gio - Hamilton
Kulak - Hamonic
Kyllington - Andersson
Wotherspoon

Smith
Rittich

So, that's the team if we trade Ferland, Brodie, Brouwer and Stone for nothing but picks.

It is wrong that I like this team WAY better than the one we iced all of last year?

Now just add one or two major UFA signings and you're good!

[TheScorpion]

People are talking about ROR but if that fails, why not Paul Stastny?

[TheIronMaiden]

I am skeptical that the Flames will make any large moves in the off season. My suspicion is that they will try to add a right winger, but this move might be a little less than some would like. My guess is they add someone young, with upside, or someone with proven production but an expiring contract. Not a big renovation. I believe that the Flames are doubtful that their scoring can be solved within the organisation so they will probably target one player. Otherwise, we will see a very similar roster to the one we just saw. Not much needs to change for the Flames to improve. I am happy with a more judicious approach.

[cKy]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

People are talking about ROR but if that fails, why not Paul Stastny?

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Bennett - Monahan - Gaudreau
Tkachuk - Backlund - Foo
Mangiapane - Jankowski - Frolik
Klimchuk - Shore - Lazar
Hathaway

Gio - Hamilton
Kulak - Hamonic
Kyllington - Andersson
Wotherspoon

Smith
Rittich

So, that's the team if we trade Ferland, Brodie, Brouwer and Stone for nothing but picks.

It is wrong that I like this team WAY better than the one we iced all of last year?

You do realize that Stockton did not make the playoffs this year.. They won 34 games and lost 34 games. It would be a bad sign that 6 players on that team are playing in the NHL next season.

[FlamesFanTrev]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

You do realize that Stockton did not make the playoffs this year.. They won 34 games and lost 34 games. It would be a bad sign that 6 players on that team are playing in the NHL next season.

Maybe it was their bottom 6 depth that sunk them? It's happened before.....

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

You do realize that Stockton did not make the playoffs this year.. They won 34 games and lost 34 games. It would be a bad sign that 6 players on that team are playing in the NHL next season.

That's a poor way to assess if there are players down there ready to play.
For one, a lot of AHL success is defined by the veterans on the team, not the actual prospects
Second, most of their guys had been either called up to the Flames or were injured
I don't think we will see that many on the team, but your reasoning as to why is very poor. The AHL record is rather meaningless.

As a further example, the best Flames farm team was the 2001 Saint John Flames that one the AHL championships.
Their roster produced almost no NHLers and certainly no impact NHLers: Rico Fata, David Roche, Derrick Wasler, Rico Fata, Sergei Varlamov, Darrel Scoville, Benoit Gratto, Chris Clark. This was the core.

In goal was Dany Sabourin, Levente Szuper and Martin Brochu.

AHL record is meaningless.

Your constant and off-base criticisms are getting tiresome.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Bennett - Monahan - Gaudreau
Tkachuk - Backlund - Foo
Mangiapane - Jankowski - Frolik
Klimchuk - Shore - Lazar
Hathaway

Gio - Hamilton
Kulak - Hamonic
Kyllington - Andersson
Wotherspoon

Smith
Rittich

So, that's the team if we trade Ferland, Brodie, Brouwer and Stone for nothing but picks.

It is wrong that I like this team WAY better than the one we iced all of last year?

Worth noting that Wotherspoon will be a UFA and I can't imagine him signing back with this organization.
He's done here

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by cKy

Because there just aren't enough pucks to go around. Tavares, Monahan, ROR, Stastny, Backlund...

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

That's a poor way to assess if there are players down there ready to play.
For one, a lot of AHL success is defined by the veterans on the team, not the actual prospects
Second, most of their guys had been either called up to the Flames or were injured
I don't think we will see that many on the team, but your reasoning as to why is very poor. The AHL record is rather meaningless.

As a further example, the best Flames farm team was the 2001 Saint John Flames that one the AHL championships.
Their roster produced almost no NHLers and certainly no impact NHLers: Rico Fata, David Roche, Derrick Wasler, Rico Fata, Sergei Varlamov, Darrel Scoville, Benoit Gratto, Chris Clark. This was the core.

In goal was Dany Sabourin, Levente Szuper and Martin Brochu.

AHL record is meaningless.

Your constant and off-base criticisms are getting tiresome.

Do not understand your motivation of denigrating the 2001 SJ Flames.

Montador (571 NHL games), Steve Begin (524 nhl games) and Marty Murray (207 NHL games) along with Clark (707 NHL games were pretty solid NHLers.

[locsofblu]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Bennett - Monahan - Gaudreau
Tkachuk - Backlund - Foo
Mangiapane - Jankowski - Frolik
Klimchuk - Shore - Lazar
Hathaway

Gio - Hamilton
Kulak - Hamonic
Kyllington - Andersson
Wotherspoon

Smith
Rittich

So, that's the team if we trade Ferland, Brodie, Brouwer and Stone for nothing but picks.

It is wrong that I like this team WAY better than the one we iced all of last year?

Definitely not a playoff team. Where have we improved? You re putting way to much faith in our unproven Stockton players. Plus when has Bennett ever proven to be a top 6 forward let alone a top 3? I think with those trades it's imperative to get roster players back.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Do not understand your motivation of denigrating the 2001 SJ Flames.

Montador (571 NHL games), Steve Begin (524 nhl games) and Marty Murray (207 NHL games) along with Clark (707 NHL games were pretty solid NHLers.

None of them were impact players. The point is ahl team success is a poor predictor of eventual nhl player quality

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

None of them were impact players. The point is ahl team success is a poor predictor of eventual nhl player quality

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

As a further example, the best Flames farm team was the 2001 Saint John Flames that one the AHL championships.
Their roster produced almost no NHLers .

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

None of them were impact players. The point is ahl team success is a poor predictor of eventual nhl player quality

Outside of goalies there are very few impact players that play in the AHL at all.

Monahan, Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Hamilton Frolik Bennett all had no AHL games.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Outside of goalies there are very few impact players that play in the AHL at all.

Monahan, Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Hamilton Frolik Bennett all had no AHL games.

Ok so what are we talking about here?