Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[8 Ball]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

You can just visit the Canadian Politics thread.

CaptainCrunch, Erick Estrada, doctorfever (or flamesfever? or are they different?), calgarygeologist, Azure, firebot, etc etc. All regular posters. All right if center or “conservative.” Some of them even worth interacting with! You could probably put Mr.Coffee in there, he’s great, maybe one of a centrist though? I don’t know. The point is there are lots of posters bringing lots of variety when it comes to political opinions. And a bunch of them have no trouble bringing as much snark as anyone else.

Acting like conservatives are being chased away is… lame. They post all the time in the Canadian thread, they don’t post here. Only Yoho posts here, and he gets called a bot because he has zero interest in conversation, he just reposts opinion pieces with the occasional one-liner he thinks is clever. I get brought up, mocked, and whined about by 2-3 posters in particular weekly (deserved, I’m a treasure) and I’m still here, nobody is “chasing me out.” Iggy_oi gets bullied constantly for being pro-union, nobody is chasing him out. I could go on, but if you’re getting chased off a message board because people call you lame? Jesus Christ, get a backbone.

“You just keep chasing them away”? You can’t be serious. Why? Because Cliff doesn’t post? One of the last things he defended the UCP over is them insisting that teachers also talk about all the “good things” Nazis did. Sorry you’re missing out on that, maybe you can DM him or just follow Kanye on Twitter.

I was merely pointing out that I like the back-and-forth of different points of view. And I agree, there are some resilient posters here.

[CroCop]

Originally Posted by Yoho

This will be a fun race to the end.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1598810606316003335

Man I’m no fan of Smith but Notley is a dead ringer for that dude from Star Wars Darth Sidious! Maybe mix in a little facial cream now and then.

[Torture]

I'm just gunna post my tweet cause I'm too lazy to re-type it, but while we're all distracted by the gong show that is the sovereignty act, this is happening:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1598865657592188928

[Ozy_Flame]

Yeah but kids wearing masks is constricting and limits freedoms. Let's focus on what matters here.

[Torture]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Yeah but kids wearing masks is constricting and limits freedoms. Let's focus on what matters here.

Those kids are dying anyways, it's an inefficient use of resources! - Danielle Smith, probably.

[AFireInside]

Nm..

[81MC]

Originally Posted by CroCop

Man I’m no fan of Smith but Notley is a dead ringer for that dude from Star Wars Darth Sidious! Maybe mix in a little facial cream now and then.

I’m certain publications are intentional about the photos they use for #### like this.

[Roughneck]

So to keep track that’s a premier who thinks it can be amended, a deputy premier who hasn’t read it, another who thinks it good, and another who thinks it should be amended?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1598883554607632384

[Yoho]

The leader of the official opposition weighs in on Alberta sovereignty act.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1598890015416717312

[GGG]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

We can probably assume the report is a bit (if not a lot) rose-coloured with a lot of best-case assumptions, but it seems unlikely that a totally pragmatic/realistic analysis would drive it back down into the red.

And while we shouldn't readily accept wasteful/inefficient elements of any program, I'd argue that this was generally the best kind of 'waste' - money paid to frontline workers, which is generally recirculated locally pretty efficiently. Using an Ontario based company to administer the staffing was unfortunate, though IIRC there simply wasn't an AB based alternative.

And we need to remember this was all in the context of a new carbon tax, and this program was simply a measure to help people adapt.

Reading through the link it includes all residential programs for the EEA in that report. This includes the cheap light bulbs being sold, the green energy rebates, the energy efficiency grants, and the putting in lightbulb programs. Without further breakdown I’m not sure your conclusion above is true.

[RedHot25]

A play in 3 Acts.

Originally Posted by Yoho

The leader of the official opposition weighs in on Alberta sovereignty act.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1598890015416717312

Originally Posted by RedHot25

Alright, Yoho, I agree it will be a tight race. I think it comes down to Calgary. Your thoughts? What does the UCP need to do to win this, and what do they do (or not do) to lose this?

The timing of the poll if also quite interesting - post-affordability measures, pre/before sovereignty act.

Which is kind of what I had noted previously. Affordability measures could have been a win for her, but has the message gone so off track - I would argue a lot of her own doing - with the sovereignty act?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1598824657943433216

https://twitter.com/user/status/1598825298820497408

Edit: sigh, already out of the thread...

Originally Posted by RedHot25

You know what, I should have just posted this, as this sums it up pretty much:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1598509530056339457

https://twitter.com/user/status/1598512413900693504

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by Yoho

The leader of the official opposition weighs in on Alberta sovereignty act.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1598890015416717312

‘I’m going to respect provincial jurisdiction’ says federal politician who’s entire campaign has centred around housing.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by bs&cs

this is also false

https://twitter.com/user/status/1598676819905069056

[CactusJack]

Nm

[Ozy_Flame]

GDP stats show real estate and manufacturing are larger than O/G activity.

[Bs&Cs]

Originally Posted by Yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1598676819905069056

You said it pays the rent in this country. Oil and gas accounts for about 10% of GDP. That's not an insignificant number, but it's hardly the entire economy, or even remotely close to it.

[Yikes]

Originally Posted by Bs&Cs

You said it pays the rent in this country. Oil and gas accounts for about 10% of GDP. That's not an insignificant number, but it's hardly the entire economy, or even remotely close to it.

It's an Alberta thing...alot of people in O&G think that the contribution to the country is HUGE...when really it is not. I don't how accurate 10% of GDP is but I would have to think that is pretty close. It's not a small number but on the other side of the coin if half of it disappeared...not that big of a deal in the big picture.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Yikes

It's an Alberta thing...alot of people in O&G think that the contribution to the country is HUGE...when really it is not. I don't how accurate 10% of GDP is but I would have to think that is pretty close. It's not a small number but on the other side of the coin if half of it disappeared...not that big of a deal in the big picture.

You need to look at percent of exports and inflows of capital to understand the importance of O+G to Canadas economy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...orts_of_Canada

Also if you look at Cars exports = imports roughly so it’s net affect is still really just a service industry for Canadians. Essentially rich countries exports goods and services that use low amounts of labour for goods that are labour intensive creating the ability to generate economic surplus.

[RedHot25]

You are clearly winning when you have stuff like this...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1598883554607632384

https://twitter.com/user/status/1598884585156136960

https://twitter.com/user/status/1598913201705738241

[Fuzz]

OK Smith supporters, I understand you think these ideas are good, do you think this team has the competency to pull it off? If so, what makes you think that?