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Old 05-16-2021, 11:33 PM   #41
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Bottom line is they were never close to the playoffs and never close to the top 5 pick

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They "had" it because they had played fewer games. You realize they had four games after everyone else was done right.

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They needed 1 or 2 more wins
We already discussed this the other day.
They had the 6th OA by point percentage on April 9 until they won that night.
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We already discussed this the other day.
They had the 6th OA by point percentage on April 9 until they won that night.
pretty amazing since they didn't play

maybe by your arbitrary date its true but they would have had to lose their last 7 to stay there

Edit: are you factoring Seattle? that might be the disconnect
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Old 05-16-2021, 11:38 PM   #44
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The "Around the league" should include calgarypuck comments.
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Old 05-16-2021, 11:40 PM   #45
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This team's playoff push ended, for all intents & purposes, when they lost those back to back games in Ottawa in March. Anyone telling themselves that the Flames were still realistically in it after that, are kidding themselves. This team isn't anywhere close to being a contender. Just look at the 12 teams that made the playoffs in divisions other than the North... do the Flames hold a candle to any of them? I think not.
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This team was never the same since they shat the bed against Colorado. Pressure on, wilt and die.
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Old 05-16-2021, 11:46 PM   #47
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This team's playoff push ended, for all intents & purposes, when they lost those back to back games in Ottawa in March. Anyone telling themselves that the Flames were still realistically in it after that, are kidding themselves. This team isn't anywhere close to being a contender. Just look at the 12 teams that made the playoffs in divisions other than the North... do the Flames hold a candle to any of them? I think not.
Who said they did? I don't think the Oilers, Jets, or Habs do either

Fact is if the Flames won one or two more games...or the game against Montreal that they hit four posts and lost by a goal they would be in.

They were certainly in it considering how bad Montreal was...they needed one more win FFS to say they were out of it is being obtuse.

Its true they are better off not making it but that doesn't change the facts they were one win away from making the playoffs as it was setup this season.
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Need to give two more points to vancouver still
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Dress the '89 team see what happens. Couldn't be worse than this abomination of a game.
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Old 05-16-2021, 11:48 PM   #50
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"We got the win, but that was embarrassing." Elias Lindholm

Commented that the Canucks were more dangerous on the Flames "peeper" (powerplay) than the Flames were.

Brutal third period. Flames were better 5 on 5 than with the PP. They couldn't clear the puck on the PK either. Just an awful period.
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Old 05-16-2021, 11:50 PM   #51
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Who cares if they were embarrassed this game, missing the playoffs in this weak arse temporary division is a disgrace. Blow it up, then blow it up again just to be sure.
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pretty amazing since they didn't play

maybe by your arbitrary date its true but they would have had to lose their last 7 to stay there
On April 9, they had the 6th worst point percentage. On April 10, until they won, they had the 6th OA pick.

If my math is correct, they would have maintained that spot if they finished 6-9-1 instead of 10-6. No need to lose 7 in a row.

Admittedly, if the Flames finish 2-0, they'll only be 2 points behind Montreal. So by that metric you are absolutely right.

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Old 05-16-2021, 11:54 PM   #53
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This team's playoff push ended, for all intents & purposes, when they lost those back to back games in Ottawa in March. Anyone telling themselves that the Flames were still realistically in it after that, are kidding themselves. This team isn't anywhere close to being a contender. Just look at the 12 teams that made the playoffs in divisions other than the North... do the Flames hold a candle to any of them? I think not.
Contender or not, Flames have more wins then Montreal already. Montreal just has 11 loser points to Calgary’s 3.

Those two losses to Montreal,2-1 when they outplayed the Habs on the Saturday night, then 9 days later when they lost the Monday night game here, again the better team, were huge obviously...one of those wins goes the other way and Flames would just need one win out of two now to make the playoffs.
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On April 9, they had the 6th worst point percentage. On April 10, until they won, they had the 6th OA pick.

If my math is correct, they would have maintained that spot if they finished 6-9-1 instead of 10-6. No need to lose 7 in a row.

Admittedly, if the Flames finish 2-0, they'll only be 2 points behind Montreal. So by that metric you are absolutely right.
Good site...based on that they would be picking 7OA (Seattle) not 6
My 7 games was based on where they were before their final 7 games...to hold that spot from that point they would have had to lose the final 7 games.

So yeah if they tanked since April 9th they could have drafted 7OA.

If they beat Montreal in that game they hit 4 posts and lost by a goal they could clinch next game. IMO they were in it (because of a bad division is fair)
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Good site...based on that they would be picking 7OA (Seattle) not 6
My 7 games was based on where they were before their final 7 games...to hold that spot from that point they would have had to lose the final 7 games.

So yeah if they tanked since April 9th they could have drafted 7OA.

If they beat Montreal in that game they hit 4 posts and lost by a goal they could clinch next game. IMO they were in it (because of a bad division is fair)
Okay, lets say the Flames win that game, and squeak in.
What do you think the Flames accomplish by making the playoffs rather than picking high?
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Such a Flames game, blowing a 4 goal lead but we still won so it's all good to me. Team still has a step to take to learn how to play with a lead. Hopefully we'll get a few more better players.

6 goals is nice though, I liked Connor Mackey, he got in a fight and had an assist plus just over 14 Minutes icetime, so that's a positive. I didn't really notice Adam Ruzicka other than a couple shifts and once where I thought he couldn't keep up, I had the game on in the background and watched most of it though.

I think the canucks are a skilled team so not really surprising they were able to come back in an out of playoff game.

Sucks to be out of the playoffs though but take the win.
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This team was never the same since they shat the bed against Colorado. Pressure on, wilt and die.
The support/role players held up their end ever since though.

It's all been on the psyche of those 5-6 core guys.

We needed new engine parts. Refused to acknowledge it, ran the thing into the ground. Now we're at the mercy of what the scrap yard will pay for them.

I'd probably make a ####y GM but if I was one I would be proactive about any avenue to prolong my window. Retooling on the fly every couple of years and making those lateral trades that make you a little younger every time. Getting too attached to any player, or pair of players like Mony-Johnny is a dangerous game to play. The only way I stay loyal to guys that long is if they brought me a reasonable amount of playoff success.

They guys have not once showed they have an extra gear when it mattered.

Bonkers to hold out hope for it even 2 years after that Avalanche beating.
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Okay, lets say the Flames win that game, and squeak in.
What do you think the Flames accomplish by making the playoffs rather than picking high?
I have already said they are better off not making...just saying they were "IN IT"

Anyway, they were in the 7OA slot

dropped to 11? oh well

6-9-1 seems unlikely considering the schedule with all the Montreal and Vancouver


Flames, Flyers, and Rangers have more wins than Montreal
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Old 05-17-2021, 12:09 AM   #59
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I was expecting this; the pressure is off, so they'll win them all.
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Meaningless game. Was not that excited when they were up 5-1. But man was I pissed off that they choked that lead away. This team is just so frustrating to cheer for. They keep finding new ways to suck.
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