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Old 05-12-2021, 10:36 AM   #41
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Monahan doesn't inflict any punishment, but he absorbs a lot. I never question his toughness.

This isn't really great news. It makes him extremely difficult to trade. And he had a poor year last year and he was disappointing from game 1 this season. So it's really impossible to predict with any confidence whether his game will return or if he will get injured again.

So we are left with a $6.3 million question mark going into next year. At least compared to his play this year, there is upside.
I disagree. The first 10 or so games this season he was absolutely flying and looked like a stronger, faster, and more physically engaged presence out there. He had 14 points in his first 17 games.

It was evident to anyone that wasn't directly looking for a scapegoat as the season wore on that Monahan was playing through something serious for a large chunk of the year.

Trading Monahan now would be a poor idea.
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Old 05-12-2021, 10:37 AM   #42
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Should have shut him down earlier and let Bennett slot it. It's been obvious that he hasn't been 100% for a while.

Well in fairness, if they played Bennett at 2C, then how would they scratch Sam to send the message to Tkachuk that he needs about what happens when the team comes out flat
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Old 05-12-2021, 10:37 AM   #43
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HIP SURGERY

Comes back stronger after hip surgery.
Hip surgeries have come a long way. If he’s getting the Birmingham one he can bounce back super quickly
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Old 05-12-2021, 10:39 AM   #44
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I wonder how long he's been dealing with this hip issue
Allstar break 2019 is my guess
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For someone who plays such a soft game, he sure gets injured a lot.
To be fair Monahans success has come from going to the scoring areas in front of the net and he takes a beating

No soft players are willing to go to the areas Monahan does, and he's scored 400+ points doing it
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To be fair Monahans success has come from going to the scoring areas in front of the net and he takes a beating

No soft players are willing to go to the areas Monahan does, and he's scored 400+ points doing it
Yeah he's not a physical player but to his credit he has always gone to the dirty areas to get in shooting position or to cash in on a rebound.
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Hip surgeries have come a long way. If he’s getting the Birmingham one he can bounce back super quickly
I highly doubt they're talking replacement at this time. (Or technically resurfacing in the case of the Birmingham) if that's the case he's done. Pro athletes have tried to continue after this but it has never lasted long. There's on nba player that played for a bit. Ed Jovanovski played about 30 games and Andy Murray, the tennis player is currently trying.

Most likely labral tear or something like that.

Edit. And team says he'll be ready to go for training camp. Hip replacement or resurfacing takes 6 months minimum to be ready for that which would keep him sidelined until November.

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For someone who plays such a soft game, he sure gets injured a lot.
I hate this take about Monahan.

He maybe doesn't play "Physical" but it's BS to call him soft.

The reason the guy is always hurt is because he does go to the dirty areas of the ice. He plays that net front prescence, and is the guy that takes the punishment to be in front of the net and get those goals while defenders just hack and slash away at him.

It's unfortunate that his body seems to breaking down from that though.

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left wrist reconstructed, two hernia surgeries, a procedure on his groin, hip surgery.. anything else? seems to be every summer there is something. he's broken. whatever player he was he isn't that anymore.
And this is the real problem it's starting to add up for a player, and it only usually get's worse as you get older. I had hoped that he might be healthier after the layoffs due to COVID but it appears the time off didn't necessarily help.

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Good on Monahan for playing through the pain as he has played 591 of the 614 games (618 after the final 4 games) for a guy that is always injured he never misses significant time
And I bet that if you looked at the 27 games he's missed in that time, they all came at the end of the season when he was shutdown because the team was eliminated. Honestly them rolling them out there injured has probably been to his own & the team's detriment at times.

The guy plays hurt and through injuries every year, and always keeps going back to the front of the net taking that punishment, but he's "soft"

Question his skillset, and defensive play for sure, but drives me crazy that he gets labeled as lazy or soft.

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Yeah in hindshight Bennett would have been more effective than Monahan. No idea when this injury occurred but he hasn't good all year.

Kind of puts Gaudreau's performance in a different light, playing with Monahan and Ritchie so much.
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Monny takes a beating every season in the middle of the Ice. Of course he's going to have surgeries every year.

He's not soft despite some really hot takes in here. He's not a banger either though. But to be fair he's laid out more than few players this year with his hitting.

People just don't like Monahan, but they don't like him for all the wrong narratives.
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Monahan and Eichel both being fixed up, coincidence??? E5
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Yeah in hindshight Bennett would have been more effective than Monahan. No idea when this injury occurred but he hasn't good all year.

Kind of puts Gaudreau's performance in a different light, playing with Monahan and Ritchie so much.
What's Johnnys excuse for being garbage most of the year then. It's Monahans fault? The coaches for making up the lines?

Take Johnny off 9f the pedestal and put him with the rest of the team. He gets no pass for his play this year either.
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Unless he has been injured for literally his entire time as a Flame he’s still a lazy player

Never watched a game and thought “wow Monahan left it all out there tonight”


He’s 6’3 215 and has played over 600 games for us without throwing a single big hit. He’s consistently been one of the worst defensive players in the entire league. He’s a lazy one dimensional player even when healthy and teams have figured out how to mostly shut him down.

So is he as bad as he showed this year? No but you still need to move him
Sean Monahan has made his career finishing off gift-wrapped opportunities from Johnny Gaudreau.

Johnny Gaudreau takes more hacks, slashes and abuse than anyone on this team. Has been the case since he got here.

Monahan has never once done a single thing to take up for Gaudreau. Not a spear, not a slash, not a headlock, not a takedown, not a sucker punch, not a cross check, nothing.

He will watch the franchise meal ticket get his hands broken and skate to the bench. Why would he do anything? It’s been clear for several years that opponents have zero respect for Monahan - they know he’s soft and weak, and they laugh at him for it. Read some lips during scrums - ain’t nobody sweating when Sean Moneyhands enters the fray.

Jarome Iginla would have beaten the piss out of a player once a season just to remind the league what happens if they trifle with Gaudreau. And certainly he would have fought more intimidating people than Ryan Nugent Hopkins.

It’s one thing to say it’s a different game and time etc but it’s wholly unacceptable for Monahan to have never once had his benefactor’s back in 516 games. There have been reasons to go in 514, and Monahan refuses because... I don’t know why.

Get out.
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When was the last time Monahan was not injured at the end of the season or playoffs? I seem to remember hearing about injuries after the season was done for the past 5 seasons.
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Tell something new, this happens every year. Maybe don't move a guy like Bennett out if you know your pride and joy is playing injured.
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Can Monahan just pay a visit to Stark Industries already?
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When was the last time Monahan was not injured at the end of the season or playoffs? I seem to remember hearing about injuries after the season was done for the past 5 seasons.
Monahan is always hurt because the league knows he’s weak and won’t stand up for himself or defend himself. So they hurt him.

They take shots, they take slashes, they do everything they’d do to Johnny because there’s no chance of repercussions unless they wear 93 for Edmonton.
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Im 110% over Sean Monahan, he exemplifies this franchise, no heart, no emotion. Its great he plays through injury because hes legitimately injured every single season or he wouldnt ever play!

Was looking forward to this being the final season of watching him float around and hang off Johnny's shoulders but looks like it will be difficult to trade him now. I honestly dont even care what we get back, just ridding that contract would be a win.
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Sean Monahan has made his career finishing off gift-wrapped opportunities from Johnny Gaudreau.

Johnny Gaudreau takes more hacks, slashes and abuse than anyone on this team. Has been the case since he got here.

Monahan has never once done a single thing to take up for Gaudreau. Not a spear, not a slash, not a headlock, not a takedown, not a sucker punch, not a cross check, nothing.

He will watch the franchise meal ticket get his hands broken and skate to the bench. Why would he do anything? It’s been clear for several years that opponents have zero respect for Monahan - they know he’s soft and weak, and they laugh at him for it. Read some lips during scrums - ain’t nobody sweating when Sean Moneyhands enters the fray.

Jarome Iginla would have beaten the piss out of a player once a season just to remind the league what happens if they trifle with Gaudreau. And certainly he would have fought more intimidating people than Ryan Nugent Hopkins.

It’s one thing to say it’s a different game and time etc but it’s wholly unacceptable for Monahan to have never once had his benefactor’s back in 516 games. There have been reasons to go in 514, and Monahan refuses because... I don’t know why.

Get out.
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