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Old 04-25-2021, 05:05 PM   #61
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Interesting that the Panthers 3rd and 4th round picks in 2020 are ranked as higher prospects than Emil Heineman who was their 2nd rounder in 2020
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Does anyone ever check back on the team prospect rankings like, 3-5 years later, to see how accurate they were? We all comment on them as they come out, but they can only be as good as their track record as far as predictive tools right?
I seem to recall some posters doing this a few years ago, and turning out that these rankings tend to amount to nothing.

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Interesting that the Panthers 3rd and 4th round picks in 2020 are ranked as higher prospects than Emil Heineman who was their 2nd rounder in 2020
Hard to believe that Sam Bennett would return a 2nd round pick and a high level prospect so you know this guy is not blue chip.

I have always been curious what options the acquiring team has in these deals where the prospect was not the key feature of the deal. Like this deal, the Russell deal that got us Pollock or who can forget Hanowski and Agostino. Did the Flames get their pick of prospects after the other team protected x players?

Treliving said they were looking at Heineman in the draft but I would think that would be true of most players in later rounds.
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Does anyone ever check back on the team prospect rankings like, 3-5 years later, to see how accurate they were? We all comment on them as they come out, but they can only be as good as their track record as far as predictive tools right?
I have not read this issue yet, but in the back they typically have 5 and 10-year look-backs to see "where are they now".
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I have not read this issue yet, but in the back they typically have 5 and 10-year look-backs to see "where are they now".
They do for this one as well
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Old 04-25-2021, 10:19 PM   #66
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Here's Future Watch 2011:

1)Brayden Schenn 2)Ryan Johansen 3)Evgeny Kuznetsov 4)Erik Gudbranson 5)Vlad Tarasenko 6)Nino Niederreiter 7)Ryan Ellis 8)Jacob Markstrom 9)Mikkel Boedker 10)Jack Campbell 11)Charlie Coyle 12)Brandon Gormley 13)Nazem Kadri 14)Zack Kassian 15)Tim Erixon 16)Cody Hodgson 17)Brendan Smith 18)Chris Kreider 19)Luke Adam 20)Mikael Granlund 21)Nick Leddy 22)David Rundblad 23)Jaden Schwartz 24)Zac Dalpe 25)Jordan Caron 26)Nick Bjugstad 27)Louis Leblanc 28)Jeremy Morin 29)Nikita Filatov 30)Patrice Cormier 31)Brett Connolly 32)Jacob Josefson 33)Justin Faulk 34)Kyle Palmieri 35)John Moore 36)Jeff Petry 37)Jake Allen 38)Tomas Tatar 39)Andrei Loktionov 40)Jared Cowen 41)Calle Jarnkrok 42)Joey Hishon 43)Calvin deHaan 44)Robin Lehner 45)Joe Colborne 46)Beau Bennett 47)Jon Merrill 48)Cody Eakin 49)Derek Forbort 50)Dylan McIlrath

A few misses, and the order is off, but it's mostly a pretty sane list.
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Here's Future Watch 2011:

1)Brayden Schenn 2)Ryan Johansen 3)Evgeny Kuznetsov 4)Erik Gudbranson 5)Vlad Tarasenko 6)Nino Niederreiter 7)Ryan Ellis 8)Jacob Markstrom 9)Mikkel Boedker 10)Jack Campbell 11)Charlie Coyle 12)Brandon Gormley 13)Nazem Kadri 14)Zack Kassian 15)Tim Erixon 16)Cody Hodgson 17)Brendan Smith 18)Chris Kreider 19)Luke Adam 20)Mikael Granlund 21)Nick Leddy 22)David Rundblad 23)Jaden Schwartz 24)Zac Dalpe 25)Jordan Caron 26)Nick Bjugstad 27)Louis Leblanc 28)Jeremy Morin 29)Nikita Filatov 30)Patrice Cormier 31)Brett Connolly 32)Jacob Josefson 33)Justin Faulk 34)Kyle Palmieri 35)John Moore 36)Jeff Petry 37)Jake Allen 38)Tomas Tatar 39)Andrei Loktionov 40)Jared Cowen 41)Calle Jarnkrok 42)Joey Hishon 43)Calvin deHaan 44)Robin Lehner 45)Joe Colborne 46)Beau Bennett 47)Jon Merrill 48)Cody Eakin 49)Derek Forbort 50)Dylan McIlrath

A few misses, and the order is off, but it's mostly a pretty sane list.
I believe it is much easier and more straightforward to predict success and to project individual players than it is to rank each team's collection of prospects as a whole.
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Future Watch 2016:

1)Dylan Strome 2)William Nylander 3)Mitch Marner 4)Ivan Provorov 5)Mikko Rantanen 6)Zach Werenski 7)Ilya Samsonov 8)Pavel Zacha 9)Kyle Connor 10)Christian Dvorak 11)Nick Ritchie 12)Shea Theodore 13)Matt Barzal 14)Jimmy Vesey 15)Colin White 16)Travis Sanheim 17)Lawson Crouse 18)Sebastian Aho 19)Adrian Kempe 20)Julius Honka 21)Vladislav Kamenev 22)Jakub Vrana 23)Joel Eriksson-Ek 24)Kevin Fiala 25)Ivan Barbashev 26)Nick Schmaltz 27)Anthony Mantha 28)Evgeny Svechnikov 29)Travis Konecny 30)Timo Meier 31)Mirco Mueller 32)Thatcher Demko 33)Sonny Milano 34)Denis Gurianov 35)Jake Walman 36)Brock Boeser 37)Jon Gillies 38)Thomas Chabot 39)Matt Murray 40)Kasperi Kapanen 41)Haydn Fleury 42)Jakub Zboril 43)Ryan Pulock 44)Pavel Buchnevich 45)Alex Tuch 46)Michael Dal Colle 47)Michael McCarron 48)Brayden Point 49)Griffin Reinhart 50)Jacob Larsson
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