2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

Rick Carpiniello believes Fox, Kakko and Lafreniere to be untouchables. Now if you're Buffalo and can't have even one of those 3 in a return, do you even bother picking up the phone?

The Rangers could still put together a nice package.

Strome (the Sabres want help at C now)
Kravstov/Chytil
Miller/Schneider
Georgiev
1st

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

The Rangers could still put together a nice package.

Strome (the Sabres want help at C now)
Kravstov/Chytil
Miller/Schneider
Georgiev
1st

Looks like an offer that could be easily beaten by a team that is not in the same state. I think Buffalo would love to send Eichel to the west so the Kings, Wild, Coyotes, Flames would and could beat that offer

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

The Rangers could still put together a nice package.

Strome (the Sabres want help at C now)
Kravstov/Chytil
Miller/Schneider
Georgiev
1st

Strome is a season away from UFA, the rest of that is a lot of iffy quantity. Buffalo is not trading their franchise player to a State rival for a guy who will walk in a year and some magic beans.

[Gordies Elbow]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

The Skinner contract has had zero impact on BUF becoming competitive. They haven't had good enough players to be a cap team. They had the room to spend 8M on Hall this year.

Equipment allergy or another issue could always pop up.

Owner still has to pay the money, which would be $123m for both contracts.

For a team that just spent $650m, spending another $123m for a franchise center makes sense. That, combined with Seattle having 3rd in the lottery?

The more I look at it, the more I think that Eichel's heading to Seattle.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

The Rangers could still put together a nice package.

Strome (the Sabres want help at C now)
Kravstov/Chytil
Miller/Schneider
Georgiev
1st

That's okay....If the Sabres see Georgiev as their future goaltender? He's already 25 and his numbers are okay as a backup, but not mind blowing.

Strome is 27 and soon to be a UFA. I doubt he wants to be a part of the Buffalo rebuild. The last thing he wants is to go to Buffalo just before his big contract year payout. An Eichel-less Buffalo has the potential to be a blackhole of offensive production.

A lot of other teams, including the Flames, could beat this offer IMO.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Lafreniere was being talked about as an elite point producing play his whole junior career, compared to Crosby at times.

He won't live up to that hype, but he's still going to be an elite top line forward most likely.

I wouldn't trade that for Eichel at this point.

The Rangers need Laf's entry level contract status for cap compliance. Dropping in $10 million into their cap structure right now would be difficult to deal with. They could handle the cap next year, but it gets a lot tougher for them going into 2022/23 with so many RFAs and UFAs to retain.

[Da_Chief]

The Flames will screw it up again but you should be to get multiple assets for Gaudreau / Monahan / Tkachuk / Lindholm / Andersson / Hanifin, plus 3 years of top 5 picks in a row...

I would trade Tanev / Markstrom too and get out of those contracts.

Build it correctly with a GM who knows what they're doing and the team should be force especially if they get one of the top guys in next 3 years out of the draft.

In cap era, all teams are built through the draft...you can top it off with the Hossa like once it's ready.

[DionTheDman]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

I would trade Tanev / Markstrom too and get out of those contracts.

Our first legitimate starting goalie since Kipper, who was our first legitimate starting goalie since Vernon, and you try to trade him away a year into a long term deal? Not to mention with his NMC?

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

The Flames will screw it up again but you should be to get multiple assets for Gaudreau / Monahan / Tkachuk / Lindholm / Andersson / Hanifin, plus 3 years of top 5 picks in a row...

I would trade Tanev / Markstrom too and get out of those contracts.

Build it correctly with a GM who knows what they're doing and the team should be force especially if they get one of the top guys in next 3 years out of the draft.

In cap era, all teams are built through the draft...you can top it off with the Hossa like once it's ready.

Make this guy GM!

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

The Flames will screw it up again but you should be to get multiple assets for Gaudreau / Monahan / Tkachuk / Lindholm / Andersson / Hanifin, plus 3 years of top 5 picks in a row...

I would trade Tanev / Markstrom too and get out of those contracts.

Build it correctly with a GM who knows what they're doing and the team should be force especially if they get one of the top guys in next 3 years out of the draft.

In cap era, all teams are built through the draft...you can top it off with the Hossa like once it's ready.

I feel like a nuclear rebuild like this fails more often than it works. At the end of the day, a GM who knows what they're doing is more important than any specific strategy.

[Hackey]

Usually teams get forced into a rebuild. If you were proactive with one you would likely be much better off and much sooner. Obviously it still requires good management and some luck, but your odds are much greater than trying to "rebuild on the fly" which likely ends in a rebuild at the end of a bunch of mediocre seasons anyways.

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

The Flames will screw it up again but you should be to get multiple assets for Gaudreau / Monahan / Tkachuk / Lindholm / Andersson / Hanifin, plus 3 years of top 5 picks in a row...

I would trade Tanev / Markstrom too and get out of those contracts.

Build it correctly with a GM who knows what they're doing and the team should be force especially if they get one of the top guys in next 3 years out of the draft.

In cap era, all teams are built through the draft...you can top it off with the Hossa like once it's ready.

[blender]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

The Flames will screw it up again but you should be to get multiple assets for Gaudreau / Monahan / Tkachuk / Lindholm / Andersson / Hanifin, plus 3 years of top 5 picks in a row...

I would trade Tanev / Markstrom too and get out of those contracts.

Build it correctly with a GM who knows what they're doing and the team should be force especially if they get one of the top guys in next 3 years out of the draft.

In cap era, all teams are built through the draft...you can top it off with the Hossa like once it's ready.

So if you are building through the draft, and you don't even know who will be on the roster, how are you sure the team will be any good?
Does a bunch of draft picks equal a good team?

[Sandman]

Even if you burn it down, it's still advisable to keep around some quality vets who care about winning, and a capable goalie to usher in the youth. If you don't, and you just hand the keys to the team over to a bunch of kids, you're just training them to be losers-like our friends the Oilers did 10+ years ago.

[NewFan]

Lindholm, Hanifin, Johnny or Tkachuk can help a good team to become contender right next season so if you trade them we need look blue chip prospect than only draft picks. This team needs to look after 3-5 years. Most of current players can't help us after 5 years. But don't rush to trade them except a couple guys. Needs to act very smart.

[Flames1217]

I agree with a lot of posters here in that we need to be diligent. We need to shock the core as the blend just isn't right.

Ship Gaudreau to Jersey for Wood(Sutter type player), Mercer and a NYI's first. Mercer would become our top prospect but needs another two years at the least.

Then ship that first to San Jose for Kevin Lebanc. Lebanc would take over the playmaker role that Johny left although to a far lesser extent.

Try and sign Palmieri if he makes it to UFA.

Run with :

Tkachuk-Lindholm-Lebanc
Mangiapane-Monahan-Palmieri
Wood-Backlund-Dube
Lucic-Gawdin-Ritchie

If this lineup doesn't give us a better chance at success you start selling at the deadline. Move Monahan and Gio for futures.

[dino7c]

People think teams rebuild in 3-5 years...its usually takes 15-20 though

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Flames1217

I agree with a lot of posters here in that we need to be diligent. We need to shock the core as the blend just isn't right.

Ship Gaudreau to Jersey for Wood(Sutter type player), Mercer and a NYI's first. Mercer would become our top prospect but needs another two years at the least.

Then ship that first to San Jose for Kevin Lebanc. Lebanc would take over the playmaker role that Johny left although to a far lesser extent.

Try and sign Palmieri if he makes it to UFA.

Run with :

Tkachuk-Lindholm-Lebanc
Mangiapane-Monahan-Palmieri
Wood-Backlund-Dube
Lucic-Gawdin-Ritchie

If this lineup doesn't give us a better chance at success you start selling at the deadline. Move Monahan and Gio for futures.

That is bad. Wood is a grinder, I would put Mercer behind Pelletier and no guarantee he pans out, and a late 1st. If we were going full rebuild that is still a bad trade for an elite winger.

[BMStrikesAgain]

Originally Posted by dino7c

People think teams rebuild in 3-5 years...its usually takes 15-20 though

15-20 years?

TWENTY YEARS?

What?

[shutout]

Originally Posted by BMStrikesAgain

15-20 years?

TWENTY YEARS?

What?

20 years is at least two full rebuild cycles.
2-4 years to tear down and rebuild and 6-8 years of that core being competitive.
Start the cycle again.