American Politics Thread: The Hunt for Blue November

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

I'm guessing he gets fired. But I wouldn't be shocked if you ended up being right, I guess.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I just can't see a firing unless more details come to light (i.e. actual intimidation rather than just the mask). In this climate a suspension is sufficient.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

A criminal offense for wearing a mask that advertises his political leaning?
Come on now.

It's almost always against regulation to add any markings to your uniform that display a loyalty outside that uniform. That goes for pretty much every uniform. You probably couldn't get away with that mask at a McDonalds.

For law enforcement officers that's literally a crime in quite a lot of places, although don't know about Florida specifically. Pride pins have often been considered too political.

Showing up in uniform and armed at a polling station with a message that specifically takes a stand on that election?

Very likely a crime, and possibly very close to his last day on the job.

Uniforms are serious business.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Meanwhile per Elect Project over 35.5 million people have already voted. The number is actually probably much higher; there is a bit of lag (understandable) between the votes being recorded at the state level and recorded here:

https://electproject.github.io/Early...20G/index.html

It is a bit dangerous to draw too many conclusions even from the party ID of voters, as frequently they don’t track vote choice all that closely. But if polls are any indication a huge proportion of those voting early are democrats this year with a Republican Tsunami expected on Election Day. The question is whether enthusiasm becomes so high that an E-Day comeback is no longer possible.

With that in mind it’s a little bit instructive to look at total turnout as a percentage of the 2016 electorate. In the US overall, that number crossed 25% today. In Texas it’s over 52%, and in Harris County (a district Beto O’Rourke won by 17 points in 2018) the early vote is on pace to exceed the TOTAL votes cast in 2016.

None of which is to say Biden will win Texas, but there are some reasons to think it’s a softer target for him than a place like Ohio, simply because there are actually relatively fewer rural voters in Texas. The rural districts are huge and Trump will win all of them by huge margins, but there are not that many voters there. He won in 2016 partly because he also won suburban districts—if those districts are turning on him, and if turnout soars in urban counties like Harris.... you can see how a narrow Biden victory COULD happen.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

With all due respect, I doubt it.

Respectfully, you're wrong. I've previously volunteered for a political candidate. We were instructed over and over again that it was illegal for any partisan activity to take place within X meters (I don't remember the exact distance) of the polling location. I took that very seriously, even going so far as to choose the clothes I wore that day such that they didn't have the colours of any of the political parties.

If I, a mere volunteer ballot scrutineer, took those rules seriously, then you damn well better believe I expect armed officers who have sworn an oath to uphold the law to do the same. I don't care what party/candidate they support.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

The cop didn't take that photo for private use. The photo was taken by a voter while the cop was on duty at a polling station.

Oh shoot, I didn't even read the caption.

Yeah, I would say that is voter intimidation. Perhaps not intentional.

I am going to say maybe he lacks the self-awareness and and sensitivity to understand that some people do fear the police and might avoid voting because of that statement. Some people are just plain dumb, especially Trump supporters.

I am probably giving him more benefit of the doubt than he deserves though.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I'm gonna give Trump the benefit of the doubt and assume he shat himself rather than ran away from the interview.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1318645998739214336

[bigtmac19]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

I'm gonna give Trump the benefit of the doubt and assume he shat himself rather than ran away from the interview.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1318645998739214336

thanks for that laugh. I needed it today. I wouldn’t doubt it if that was exactly right!

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Doesn't bode well... So the police union will... Suspend him, with pay?

What’s important is that this gets discouraged by the proper local authorities prior to November 3.

[Chonger]

Has anyone tried to join or sign up for the Trump army through that website?

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[darockwilder]

I figure this cop will be in the audience at the next debate now.

[calgaryred]

Originally Posted by darockwilder

I figure this cop will be in the audience at the next debate now.

Im sure Trump will bring it up at one of his rallies if the officer is suspended, and say how his supporters are being treated so unfairly.

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[burn_this_city]

Trump is threatening to release the 60 minutes taping before airtime. Someone is upset they got asked some really unfair questions by the fake news media.

[FlamesAddiction]

Who is that guy whose job it is to carry briefcase around that has all the nuclear codes?

Is he sick in the head enough to actually do it? A manufactured crisis is probably the only thing that can win him the election now. Everyone loves a war time president.

Even if he lost, it would put Biden in the position of extraditing him to face war crimes. Presidents just never do this. George Bush should have been. Trump probably should have from that Iranian guy he had assassinated. You can add Tony Blair to the list.

Although realistically, Western Nations always seem escape no matter what bad crap we do.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Respectfully, you're wrong. I've previously volunteered for a political candidate. We were instructed over and over again that it was illegal for any partisan activity to take place within X meters (I don't remember the exact distance) of the polling location. I took that very seriously, even going so far as to choose the clothes I wore that day such that they didn't have the colours of any of the political parties.

If I, a mere volunteer ballot scrutineer, took those rules seriously, then you damn well better believe I expect armed officers who have sworn an oath to uphold the law to do the same. I don't care what party/candidate they support.

There is a difference between 'illegal' and 'criminal'.

We shall see if criminal charges are brought against him. I seriously doubt it, but we shall see.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Respectfully, you're wrong. I've previously volunteered for a political candidate. We were instructed over and over again that it was illegal for any partisan activity to take place within X meters (I don't remember the exact distance) of the polling location. I took that very seriously, even going so far as to choose the clothes I wore that day such that they didn't have the colours of any of the political parties.

If I, a mere volunteer ballot scrutineer, took those rules seriously, then you damn well better believe I expect armed officers who have sworn an oath to uphold the law to do the same. I don't care what party/candidate they support.

Yes, same with working at the polling station.

[GGG]

One important thing to look at is that high early voter turnout relative to historical levels or the other party is a sign of enthusiasm rather than of support. It does tend to Cannibalize your votes on Election Day. It’s still a good thing as enthusiasm is what drives turnout and turnout is what wins elections. It’s just more subtle then saying Dems are up by x points in early voting.

[GirlySports]

Interesting to see what happened in the Trump interview. Trump has done a lot of interviews, some I've posted here, and he's been ok in most of them.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Itse

It's almost always against regulation to add any markings to your uniform that display a loyalty outside that uniform. That goes for pretty much every uniform. You probably couldn't get away with that mask at a McDonalds.

For law enforcement officers that's literally a crime in quite a lot of places, although don't know about Florida specifically. Pride pins have often been considered too political.

Showing up in uniform and armed at a polling station with a message that specifically takes a stand on that election?

Very likely a crime, and possibly very close to his last day on the job.

Uniforms are serious business.

Wearing partisan clothing is illegal.

Intimidation would be a crime.

I know that some of you think that simply wearing the mask is intimidation. I think that would be extremely difficult to make stick. Unless the police officer actually did anything that could be construed as intimidation, I don't see him being charged with a crime.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Could the Trump campaign's attacks on Hunter Biden be to take the heat of something else? Trump is a big projectionist, so maybe he's covering up for this?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/theres...s-ivanka-trump