02-23-2022, 10:27 PM
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While they’re both technically PG-13 movies, Batman looks much less kid friendly and that’s going to hurt it’s numbers.
Like Cecil said, the 3 hours runtime is going to hurt it as well. Endgame had the same runtime but had the momentum of all the other Marvel movies driving it.
This is another reboot. It’s going to do well, but won’t crack a billion dollars unless it gets Joker level hype and reviews.
Last edited by KTrain; 02-24-2022 at 07:41 AM.
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02-24-2022, 09:44 PM
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#462
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
That 3 hour run time is gonna hurt the box office. Not only in terms of showings but also in terms of people willing to go see it. Also Spidey movies are kid safe. Batman is not.
I bet this movie is much closer to something like Logan.
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Yep I don't think there's much buzz about this one. I use my teenagers as barometers and I'm not even sure they know about it.
If I'm the one dragging them to see it, it doesn't bode well for the box office.
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02-25-2022, 02:35 PM
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#463
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Originally Posted by Nadal Fan
I don't necessarily think that's true. Batman 89 did over $400 mill, the first Spider-man which came out a couple years before made over $800 mill.
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Those are both outliers though, the number one movies by far of their respective years and pop culture phenomenon of the time. Batman Begins was still the #9 grossing movie worldwide of 2005 -- when you look at the #9 movie of 2019 (the last normal box office year) it was Aladdin that made over a billion. $350-400 million worldwide gross was a guaranteed top ten in the early 2000's which has to be seen as a success -- that's what the X-Men movies were making and getting sequel after sequel greenlit too.
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03-05-2022, 11:04 AM
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#466
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I scanned the Cineplex and Landmark seat maps to see if I should go see it this weekend, a lot of showings and a few completely sold out. I'm surprised. I'll wait until next week.
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03-05-2022, 11:13 AM
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#467
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Originally Posted by Engine09
I scanned the Cineplex and Landmark seat maps to see if I should go see it this weekend, a lot of showings and a few completely sold out. I'm surprised. I'll wait until next week.
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My boy saw it last night.
Batman has been "his guy" for, well forever. He is a full Batman Geek.
He loved it, he really like that Batman not only was a physical force, but he also showed his intelligence.
He and I are going to try and see it.
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03-07-2022, 09:52 AM
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Uncharted cracked $100M total this weekend too, a huge success for Sony as it had some potential bomba vibes. Will cross into the top 5 grossing video game adaptations this week and should hit number 4 for sure.
Batman will be interesting to see the legs on it, it was always a pretty sure thing for a good first weekend but we've seen a lot of DC movies have the legs fall out pretty much immediately. I'm still planning to see it, haven't had a chance yet.
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03-07-2022, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube
Uncharted cracked $100M total this weekend too, a huge success for Sony as it had some potential bomba vibes. Will cross into the top 5 grossing video game adaptations this week and should hit number 4 for sure.
Batman will be interesting to see the legs on it, it was always a pretty sure thing for a good first weekend but we've seen a lot of DC movies have the legs fall out pretty much immediately. I'm still planning to see it, haven't had a chance yet.
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Batman seems more like the Joker, in terms of box office response, than the DCEU films. It also doesn't open in China until March 18. IMO, the legs on Batman will be solid.
Uncharted though is trash. They likely got a boost from Batman overflow, from people who wanted to go to the movies but couldn't get tickets to Batman.
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03-07-2022, 12:37 PM
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Batman’s international looks pretty low even without China. Are there other major markets it’s missing right now?
Compared to NWH you had a 42% domestic no China and Joker had 32% domestic, no China.
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03-07-2022, 03:24 PM
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This is random but thread accidentally took me back to the first page.
But I still can't believe Aquaman made over a $1B dollars.
Might be one of my least favorite DC movies from this "era" of D2C movies, and I thought it was outright bad.
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03-07-2022, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by GGG
Batman’s international looks pretty low even without China. Are there other major markets it’s missing right now?
Compared to NWH you had a 42% domestic no China and Joker had 32% domestic, no China.
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Still waiting for it to open in China and Japan the last two big international markets it will open. As well no Russia release, which with the Joker brought in $30 mill.
I've heard people say with this weekend and the holds that it had, that $900 mill is a strong possibility.
DC films are all independent releases, the success of this film doesn't guarantee that Black Adam will be a success. MCU has a brilliant strategy in that no one wants to miss the next episode of the MCU as each film builds upon the last.
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03-07-2022, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Nadal Fan
Still waiting for it to open in China and Japan the last two big international markets it will open. As well no Russia release, which with the Joker brought in $30 mill.
I've heard people say with this weekend and the holds that it had, that $900 mill is a strong possibility.
DC films are all independent releases, the success of this film doesn't guarantee that Black Adam will be a success. MCU has a brilliant strategy in that no one wants to miss the next episode of the MCU as each film builds upon the last.
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Or you just don't watch any of them. The last MCU movie i watched was Batman Inception Begins.... oh umm Dr Strange.
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03-07-2022, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube
Uncharted cracked $100M total this weekend too, a huge success for Sony as it had some potential bomba vibes. Will cross into the top 5 grossing video game adaptations this week and should hit number 4 for sure.
Batman will be interesting to see the legs on it, it was always a pretty sure thing for a good first weekend but we've seen a lot of DC movies have the legs fall out pretty much immediately. I'm still planning to see it, haven't had a chance yet.
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Uncharted was passable but definitely not great or even good. Sony did a great job at releasing it exactly at the best time. Very little competition and Tom Holland has a lot of star appeal right now.
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03-07-2022, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Nadal Fan
Still waiting for it to open in China and Japan the last two big international markets it will open. As well no Russia release, which with the Joker brought in $30 mill.
I've heard people say with this weekend and the holds that it had, that $900 mill is a strong possibility.
DC films are all independent releases, the success of this film doesn't guarantee that Black Adam will be a success. MCU has a brilliant strategy in that no one wants to miss the next episode of the MCU as each film builds upon the last.
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I was more just comparing superhero domestic splits. Star Wars does 50/50, Marvel does 70/30 with China. DC used to be 60/40 with China. BvS was 43% domestic without China and Japan.
So this looks to be an NA over performance perhaps driven by previews but like you said the Sunday hold was good and it has no competition so maybe it can leg out like the joker.
I’m suspicious of the 900 million if you say 100 million in China similar to BvS then you need 800 ROW so a 3.1 multiple. So 900 is an upper bound but I don’t think likely. Effectively needs Joker legs.
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03-08-2022, 07:57 AM
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Good point GGG, it's going to be tight but even if it lands in the 800mill range that's still a massive W for WB, which hasn't had a Box Office hit since 2019.
Saw the Monday number was $11 mill which is fantastic. With this being cheap Tuesday should make at least that today. Could we see a $75 mill 2nd weekend?
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03-08-2022, 09:08 PM
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A 45% drop would be exceptional for domestic. Holding 50% and coming in at 69 probably more realistic.
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03-11-2022, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by GGG
A 45% drop would be exceptional for domestic. Holding 50% and coming in at 69 probably more realistic.
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Looks like you were right GGG, Batman off to a great start for the 2nd weekend.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1502468368284139521
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03-12-2022, 09:39 AM
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I hope the Batman reaches the necessary box office threshold so that your profit share bonus kicks in. You deserve it.
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