09-05-2018, 07:54 AM
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#221
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan02
...Oh wait I forgot Yamamoto is the same size as Gaudreau and they drafted him in the first round so he's going to be even better and save the Oilers. The talking heads were idiots thinking the Oilers were going to do anything last year and they'd be stupid to think anything is different this year. Just like the Cleveland Browns they're good for a fluke season about once a decade.
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No.
Not even Kailer Yamamoto and his vaunted draft pedigree can save the Oilers.
No one can.
No one.
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09-05-2018, 08:32 AM
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#222
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Central Alberta
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I think Jackisback is clearly a closet Oilers fan. Those seriously sound like Oiler fanboy numbers.
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09-05-2018, 04:00 PM
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#223
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First Line Centre
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Can't wait for all the predictive guys to still be wrong on the oilers.
All the analytics experts are saying "there is no way this team was as good as two years ago, and theres no way they are as bad as last year"
However, They are always just one injury away from being a total dumpster fire again...
Can't wait for them to fail to live up to even the 19th place predictions
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09-05-2018, 04:04 PM
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#224
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Darnell Nurse will not attend Oilers camp without a new contract
https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/h...a-new-contract
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As Nurse skates informally with his teammates at Rogers Place, nothing is imminent on the contract front, according to agent Anton Thun.
“This is an organization I want to be a part of obviously,” said Nurse, who won’t be at camp without a new deal. “Hopefully I’m out there first day (camp physicals)”
“I’m not the only guy (restricted free-agent) in this position. There’s (Shea) Theodore and (Josh) Morrissey still waiting too.”
The Oilers don’t have the cap room to sign Nurse to a long-term, big money deal like Vegas with Theodore ($8.6 million in space) and Winnipeg ($10.8 million), with their shutdown D Morrissey.
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09-05-2018, 04:13 PM
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#225
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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It feels good to see captain crunchs premonitions of the Oilers being in cap trouble for the last 2 years finally coming true.
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09-05-2018, 07:31 PM
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#226
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
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If there's one player I can see getting offer sheeted, it's Nurse. He is clearly worth more than the 3.5 million bridge deal that can be offered by the Oilers due to their hilarious cap management skills, yet cheap enough that you could offer sheet him at 4 million and only give up a 2nd rounder, and screw the Oilers in the process should they match.
A team like the Caps could easily afford to give up a 1st and 3rd rounder if they wished to up it a little, and Nurse at the current level would be worth that.
Either way Nurse is not taking a home discount, he smells blood in the water.
Meanwhile
Russell, Kris NMC LD NHL 31 $4,000,000 $4,000,000 $4,000,000
UFA
Lucic, Milan "A" NMC LW NHL 30 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000
Last edited by Firebot; 09-05-2018 at 07:34 PM.
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09-05-2018, 07:50 PM
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#227
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Franchise Player
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I wonder if paying a backup goalie $2.5 million is looking to be a poor decision, and they would have been better off giving a bit of that to Nurse. An extra million would have gone a long way in the negotiation.
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09-05-2018, 07:54 PM
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#228
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First Line Centre
Join Date: May 2011
Location: in the belly of the beast.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Firebot
If there's one player I can see getting offer sheeted, it's Nurse. He is clearly worth more than the 3.5 million bridge deal that can be offered by the Oilers due to their hilarious cap management skills, yet cheap enough that you could offer sheet him at 4 million and only give up a 2nd rounder, and screw the Oilers in the process should they match.
A team like the Caps could easily afford to give up a 1st and 3rd rounder if they wished to up it a little, and Nurse at the current level would be worth that.
Either way Nurse is not taking a home discount, he smells blood in the water.
Meanwhile
Russell, Kris NMC LD NHL 31 $4,000,000 $4,000,000 $4,000,000
UFA
Lucic, Milan "A" NMC LW NHL 30 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000
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If he were offer sheeted he'd be a fool not to take any offer just to get out that place and maybe actually develop into a better player
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09-05-2018, 07:56 PM
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#229
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#1 Goaltender
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But show me an example of where that actually played out... Oh wait.
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09-05-2018, 08:13 PM
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#230
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Lifetime Suspension
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They'd be screwed if he were offer sheeted.
Therefore someone should do it. Maybe the Bs just to make Chia sweat.
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09-05-2018, 08:15 PM
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#231
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
We all know Draisaitl will be back on McDavid's wing instead by Thanksgiving at the latest.
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Are we talking Canadian or American thanksgiving? Cause I can see the former happening easily.
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09-05-2018, 09:38 PM
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#232
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Firebot
If there's one player I can see getting offer sheeted, it's Nurse. He is clearly worth more than the 3.5 million bridge deal that can be offered by the Oilers due to their hilarious cap management skills, yet cheap enough that you could offer sheet him at 4 million and only give up a 2nd rounder, and screw the Oilers in the process should they match.
A team like the Caps could easily afford to give up a 1st and 3rd rounder if they wished to up it a little, and Nurse at the current level would be worth that.
Either way Nurse is not taking a home discount, he smells blood in the water.
Meanwhile
Russell, Kris NMC LD NHL 31 $4,000,000 $4,000,000 $4,000,000
UFA
Lucic, Milan "A" NMC LW NHL 30 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000
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It's hilarious that the Oilers could lose Nurse on a $4M offer sheet for a 2nd round draft pick. I really hope some team does write one up for him. If he was smart, he would sign it and get out of that tire fire while the gettin's good.
The Oilers' whole salary structure is completely messed up. With a top-heavy salary structure, the team needs to supplement McDavid and Draisaitl with cheap, young assets on entry-level or bridge contracts. If I were Chia, I'd be trading every player over 21 for whatever assets I could get in return, and parlay those multiple returns into top five draft picks. I'm talking about burning the current team to the ground. The loss of veteran NHL players would result in a terrible record and a lottery draft choice. The Oilers really need to have one top five and another top five to ten pick in each of the next three drafts. Those six players should be nearly NHL-ready, and able to step in to fill out the core that retains only McDavid and Draisaitl from the current group. THEN they can supplement with second-tier prospects from the farm and free agent signings.
I think this is the only way to save the Oilers, at least until the end of the Lucic contract, but fortunately, they seem to think that their window to win is open now.
But in theory, it could save them...
(Waits for TextCritic's inevitable rebuttal) 
Last edited by Macindoc; 09-05-2018 at 09:46 PM.
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09-05-2018, 10:37 PM
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#233
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Sweden
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Nurse for a 2nd rounder, hell yeah, that's asset management. If you can flip Stone.
Can an offer sheeted player be traded immediately? I know a waiver claim has to stay on the roster for a certain time.
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09-05-2018, 11:31 PM
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#234
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First Line Centre
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The problem with this thread's title is that by the definition of the term, we should all only be pretending to derive joy from Chia's misfortune.
Who's pretending?
Edit: just realized I was referring to schadenfraud, not schadenfraude
Last edited by Macindoc; 09-06-2018 at 02:13 AM.
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09-05-2018, 11:41 PM
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#235
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Macindoc
The problem with this thread's title is that by the definition of the term, we should all only be pretending to derive joy from Chia's misfortune.
Who's pretending?
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Why would it be pretending? The actual term doesn't involve pretending.
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09-06-2018, 12:24 AM
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#236
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First Line Centre
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Just for hilarity sake, if the Oilers has to buy out Lucic, what could the dollar amount look like?
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09-06-2018, 12:43 AM
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#237
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scorch
Just for hilarity sake, if the Oilers has to buy out Lucic, what could the dollar amount look like?
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His contract is effectively buyout-proof. Because of the way it's structured (heavy on signing bonuses, which aren't part of a buyout), there would be very little cap or money savings on a buyout.
https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-c...-lucic#results
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09-06-2018, 01:34 AM
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#238
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
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Why would anyone sign with Edmonton knowing they couldn't be bought out?
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09-06-2018, 02:07 AM
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#239
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
Why would it be pretending? The actual term doesn't involve pretending.
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I guess I was just going from the Urban Dictionary definition, not realizing that it was in fact a different word.
Learn something new every day.
Last edited by Macindoc; 09-06-2018 at 02:10 AM.
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09-06-2018, 08:30 AM
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#240
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Norm!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scorch
Just for hilarity sake, if the Oilers has to buy out Lucic, what could the dollar amount look like?
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Its buy out proof, buying him out does very little
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