[GT] Greasers @ Flames

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

They're not necessarily bad before Sigalet gets his hands on them.

Just look at the SV% of Elliott and Johnson before they came here. Among the goalies available to be signed or traded for that off-season, their numbers were among the best. Weren't they .921 and .920 respectively? Then .880 and .910 under Sigalet.

Elliott certainly slid in Calgary, but slid further in Philadelphia.
Johnson slid a lot again in Buffalo, but played for a brutal team.

Think there are some bad goalies in the mix too, Ramo and Hiller couldn't even find NHL work.

I can't speak to Signalet being a great coach or not, but the evidence suggests Calgary has acquired a lot of iffy goaltenders recently.

[Poe969]

The pens have had decent luck with goalies

[Bingo]

Just watched the highlights ...

didn't like goals 3 and 5 for Rittich but was hard to fault in him on 1, 2, and 4. 6 looked like he gave up.

But from the highlights it looks like the team with a backup issue is Edmonton.

[David Struch]

Jimmy Howard is still a good goalie, a duo of him & Smith would bring stability.
I wonder what it would cost?

[Toonage]

I've wondered the same thing. I get that people aren't crazy about Howard here but he'd be as solid a backup/1B as you could get I'd think. Also the Wings would love to move that salary.

I get that people want to see one of the young guys get the starts and learn on the job but this season seems more important to me than others. That the team not only wants to make the playoffs but needs to. Not the year for anyone to be learning in the net.

[Bleeding Red]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Nashville.

Anaheim

Anaheim - only Gibson & Andersen - 2 of 6 drafted
Nashville - only Lindback & Soros - 2 of 14 drafted since 2006

(Rinne was drafted in 2004)


I find most teams have drafted only 1 or 2 goalies since 2006 who actually have played more than 25 NHL games.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Matata

Is there even one positive thing that can be said of sigalets coaching? Kipper?

Helped draft Parsons and discover Rittich. He's a good scout.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by David Struch

Jimmy Howard is still a good goalie, a duo of him & Smith would bring stability.
I wonder what it would cost?

I wonder if the Flames can handle two issues in one swap.

Calgary trades Stone to Ottawa for Craig Andersson with the Senators paying $1.5 of his 4.75 contract that has two years remaining.

The deal gives Calgary an archaic tandem, but two of them in case one goes down. The two year deal for Andersson leaves the Flames less exposed in goaltending next year and makes resigning Smith more of an option and less of a necessity.

Big risk is performance as Andersson sagged last year, but then a lot has gone on in this man's life in the last two years.

Stone gives the Senators a brother story, helps their depleted defense, and Calgary can promote Rasmus Andersson to big time.

[Toonage]

Anderson did express an interest in being moved earlier this summer. And Ottawa is horrible at trades. This could work. The Flames could even get a pick back.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Bleeding Red

Anaheim - only Gibson & Andersen - 2 of 6 drafted
Nashville - only Lindback & Soros - 2 of 14 drafted since 2006

(Rinne was drafted in 2004)


I find most teams have drafted only 1 or 2 goalies since 2006 who actually have played more than 25 NHL games.

"Only"

[Scroopy Noopers]

Ugh the Sigalet talk...

Can we just focus on goalie performance this season? It has almost nothing to do with the goalie coach. At least at this point, he’s here for the year. The goalies are “coached” already, we’re in this.

[Fire]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I wonder if the Flames can handle two issues in one swap.

Calgary trades Stone to Ottawa for Craig Andersson with the Senators paying $1.5 of his 4.75 contract that has two years remaining.

The deal gives Calgary an archaic tandem, but two of them in case one goes down. The two year deal for Andersson leaves the Flames less exposed in goaltending next year and makes resigning Smith more of an option and less of a necessity.

Big risk is performance as Andersson sagged last year, but then a lot has gone on in this man's life in the last two years.

Stone gives the Senators a brother story, helps their depleted defense, and Calgary can promote Rasmus Andersson to big time.

I would want to see how Rasmus Andersson does in the pre-season at least before trading Stone. Stone also has a 15 team no-trade clause. Normally I would think Ottawa would be on that no-trade list but maybe since his brother plays there it might not be. Who knows.

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Elliott certainly slid in Calgary, but slid further in Philadelphia.
Johnson slid a lot again in Buffalo, but played for a brutal team.

Think there are some bad goalies in the mix too, Ramo and Hiller couldn't even find NHL work.

I can't speak to Signalet being a great coach or not, but the evidence suggests Calgary has acquired a lot of iffy goaltenders recently.

Maybe but it’s like dating. If all you ever date is train wrecks then eventually you need to realize the common denominator is you.

[Bunk]

Heard some encouraging things from a colleague who was sitting at ice level (someone who definitely knows their hockey) about Valimaki. Up close he said Valimaki is "incredible" - in break out passes, decision making, reading plays, etc. Thinks he should make the team now.

[saXon]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Maybe but it’s like dating. If all you ever date is train wrecks then eventually you need to realize the common denominator is you.

Nonsense. My sobbing profusely and 2 am texts/voicemails after they break up with me are all result of their neglect as decent sensible human beings.

Therefore, it's not me. At least that's what my mom says. And I believe her most of all people.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Helped draft Parsons and discover Rittich. He's a good scout.

I can't recall, was he around when the Flames picked McDonald over Demko?

[TheIronMaiden]

When should we expect roster cuts?

[Toonage]

The 23rd is my best guess

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Nashville.

Anaheim

Montreal always seems to find pretty good goaltenders.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

Almost makes you think he has some dirt on someone in the organization that they don't want to be made public. I mean, they're always pumping his tires in public, talking about how he is one of the best and most progressive goaltending coaches in the game, but the results with several different coaching staffs and numerous goalies do not support these assertions.
.

The idea that this is some sort of conspiracy based on him basically keeping his job through blackmail is pretty absurd.
All things being equal they must think he's doing a good job.
He isn't the first guy to survive several regime changes. At one point people were asking the same question of Todd Button.
I have no idea if he's doing a good job or not. I do agree that for the most part its been sh** in sh** out when it comes to Flames tenders.