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Old 08-09-2019, 03:53 PM   #4181
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People in the Lower Mainland are against ANY kind of development. You should see the crowds that pour out to protest a 16 storey condo building.
I hear the Tarsands Campaign nonsense repeated verbatim by my family on the Island. It's clearly had an impact on how people perceive the risks around these projects.
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Old 08-09-2019, 03:55 PM   #4182
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I hear the Tarsands Campaign nonsense repeated verbatim by my family on the Island. It's clearly had an impact on how people perceive the risks around these projects.
I mean, the Island people do have a somewhat naive, but genuine opposition to these projects. A spill would basically destroy the coastal communities.

That said, most people have no idea how many tankers already pass through the Strait with zero incident.
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Old 08-09-2019, 05:03 PM   #4183
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I mean, the Island people do have a somewhat naive, but genuine opposition to these projects. A spill would basically destroy the coastal communities.

That said, most people have no idea how many tankers already pass through the Strait with zero incident.
That's a perfect example right there on how dishonest these groups are being. The failure rates on modern tankers is 5x10^-6 per vessel per year, at one vessel a day from Vancouver that means a huge spill is a one in 548 year event. A spill would be awful and damaging and the risk isn't zero, but it's practically zero. It's the same as there being a risk of your entire family dying in a fiery car wreck which would be awful but that's never stopped people from piling their family in the van to drive somewhere. But these groups always talk about WHEN a spill happens as if it's a sure thing deliberately and recklessly misrepresenting the actual risk level for these events. It's dishonest, and instead of trying to ban tankers from California or Texas in their own country they're doing it to us, that's what gets people upset.

No ones saying these groups can't be against oil or not have the right to solicit donations or say what they want. It's that they lie, they misrepresent, they've paid off FN bands for years to be against projects no matter what which makes good faith consultations impossible. They've played a large part in killing much needed pipelines here and they've been successful in the states too, out of all the oil pipelines built in the last ten years there's two are stalled, two that originate out of Canada. They've been so successful at shuttering proposed projects that I believe they're now trying their hand on existing lines, surprise surprise it's an Enbridge line in Michigan that's operated safely for almost 70 years but who cares, it's a Canadian export line. They do all of this while American oil production has skyrocketed and Texas wells vent and flare natural gas without any pushback. At best it's a myopic environmental movement that won't stop one molecule of carbon from polluting, at worst it's a targeted economic attack on our country.

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I mean, the Island people do have a somewhat naive, but genuine opposition to these projects. A spill would basically destroy the coastal communities.

That said, most people have no idea how many tankers already pass through the Strait with zero incident.
This right here shows your true knowledge on these sort of things.
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Old 08-12-2019, 12:38 PM   #4186
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This right here shows your true knowledge on these sort of things.
Did you read what I said?
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This right here shows your true knowledge on these sort of things.
Taking everything I have not to sarcastically flip your quote on you... read the post again.
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Old 09-11-2019, 10:20 PM   #4190
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An odd source for the Herald to use.

Stand Earth is an organization specifically trying to delay the pipeline so to use them as a source iisnt great.

https://www.stand.earth/latest/peopl...e-faces-bigger

This so called research article quotes stand earth people as it’s only sources itself. At best this is a biased interpretation of facts designed to create resistance to TMX.
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An odd source for the Herald to use.

Stand Earth is an organization specifically trying to delay the pipeline so to use them as a source iisnt great.

https://www.stand.earth/latest/peopl...e-faces-bigger

This so called research article quotes stand earth people as it’s only sources itself. At best this is a biased interpretation of facts designed to create resistance to TMX.
So you are confirming only stupid people will confirm this article?
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Old 09-12-2019, 10:42 AM   #4192
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OPINION | The conversation Calgary needs to have: How does an oil city adjust to a new reality?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...-two-1.5273228

An interesting opinion piece that talks about the potential for developing other energy-based initiatives and associated technologies that Calgary could capitalize on going forward given our resources. The conversation, IMO, should really start being about this forward-looking vision and venture into new fields, with support from all levels of government.
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Old 09-13-2019, 10:08 PM   #4193
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53 per cent of Canadians support expansion of TransMountain Pipeline

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An online survey of more than 1,500 respondents in August by the Angus Reid Institute found that Canadians were more than twice as likely to say the next federal government should proceed with and complete the pipeline project, with 53 per cent of respondents saying so, as opposed to those who say it should be stopped, at 24 per cent.

For BC: 53% support, 31% oppose.
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Then why are we doing what we are doing?
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Old 09-14-2019, 07:17 AM   #4195
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Then why are we doing what we are doing?
Short answer: Because B.C. has a minority provincial government propped up by the Greens. And the courts do not care how popular a project is, only whether it's met legal conditions.

Longer answer: Political culture in Canada =/= popular attitudes in Canada. There's an article in the National Post today about how the political 'consensus' around abortion in Canada is nothing close to representative of the public attitudes about the issue.
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Short answer: Because B.C. has a minority provincial government propped up by the Greens. And the courts do not care how popular a project is, only whether it's met legal conditions.

Longer answer: Political culture in Canada =/= popular attitudes in Canada. There's an article in the National Post today about how the political 'consensus' around abortion in Canada is nothing close to representative of the public attitudes about the issue.
I feel this is even worse in BC. Not just about the energy sector, but about basically anything.
Vocal minority groups dominate decision making here and the NDP & local municipal leaders all placate to them.
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Short answer: Because B.C. has a minority provincial government propped up by the Greens. And the courts do not care how popular a project is, only whether it's met legal conditions.

Longer answer: Political culture in Canada =/= popular attitudes in Canada. There's an article in the National Post today about how the political 'consensus' around abortion in Canada is nothing close to representative of the public attitudes about the issue.
Sounds like a great system!
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I feel this is even worse in BC. Not just about the energy sector, but about basically anything.
Vocal minority groups dominate decision making here and the NDP & local municipal leaders all placate to them.
Swing votes decide policy. Doesn’t matter the country or the level of government. Those who choose the fate of different candidates pick the priorities.
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Oil prices are definitely going up on the back of this morning's drone attack on Saudi Arabia's key facilities.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKBN1VZ0OJ

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The Iranian-backed Houthis group in Yemen claimed responsibility for attacks that shut two plants at the Abqaiq facility, the heart of the Saudi oil industry, which will cut the kingdom’s production by about 5.7 million barrels per day (bpd), more than half of the kingdom’s output, according to a statement from state-run Saudi Aramco.
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Not sure about WCS, but Brent is up 17% at this point!
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