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Old 08-29-2019, 01:22 PM   #101
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What ignorant responses. Croatians and Serbians can't be trusted to have a soccer game without reigniting a war? Gross. Not totally shocked coming from you two though.
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Old 08-29-2019, 01:33 PM   #102
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I mean I wouldn't say war, but we know there would be clashes between the fans. It's nothing personal, we just know the Serbs and Croats aren't having tea anytime soon.
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Old 08-29-2019, 01:35 PM   #103
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I love when White Out comes in with righteous indignation, its just so much fun.

Ignorant you say? So...the Serbs and Croats are lovey dovey neighbours with little to no chance of a riot?

Its not like the fans of these two teams have ever rioted against each other before....
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I mean I wouldn't say war, but we know there would be clashes between the fans. It's nothing personal, we just know the Serbs and Croats aren't having tea anytime soon.
Nothing major happened in the 2013 Qualifying games between Croatia and Serbia. Although there were huge security precautions and concerns taken around the games to help ensure there was no violence.

You'd likely see something similar in this case where they just wouldn't allow ticket sales to the away team / foreigners during the tie.

But yeah there would be precautions and security concerns for sure and you never know how it would go if those two clubs meet for the first time since 90/91.

Club ultras tend to be crazier than the following you get for the national teams too which is what would drives the extra concern here for sure too.
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Old 08-29-2019, 01:43 PM   #105
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I love when White Out comes in with righteous indignation, its just so much fun.

Ignorant you say? So...the Serbs and Croats are lovey dovey neighbours with little to no chance of a riot?

Its not like the fans of these two teams have ever rioted against each other before....
Righteous indignation? I don't know if you're just that clueless or not paying attention, all I came in with is "hey this would be a great matchup" kind of post. You and your buddy decided to do the same old negative BS in any soccer thread and talked about wars breaking out from a soccer game.

It's like your not even trying to hide your trolling anymore. Your post sucked, your opinion was garbage, and I pointed it out. Probably a little racist too ("damn Yugoslavians").
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I mean we all predicted the end of Madrid when Spurs and Liverpool made the final. It's just how we do.
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For sure he’s going to get you guys a ton of pennies when he’s sold to a bigger team in next summers transfer window.
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For sure he’s going to get you guys a ton of pennies when he’s sold to a bigger team in next summers transfer window.
Predictable, Garbage opinion and maybe a little bit racist...
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Don't forget misogynistic and anti-LGBTQ since he's making fun of a Dijk...
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Righteous indignation? I don't know if you're just that clueless or not paying attention, all I came in with is "hey this would be a great matchup" kind of post. You and your buddy decided to do the same old negative BS in any soccer thread and talked about wars breaking out from a soccer game.
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Locke’s referencing the Balkin War was over the top for sure (while also being a bit tongue in cheek) but to be fair to them I don’t think anybody should really look at that match up and think “Oh great that would be fun”.

The concern of a riot or violence between ultras is justified in a situation like that, where you have two teams that have the political and on-field history that those two teams have.

It was no different when Juventus and Liverpool met for the first time after the Heysel disaster in 2005. Lots of concern and extra security measures were taken around that tie as well for similar reasons.

Any time you have two clubs with that type of history around them you are going to have to deal with people mentioning/worrying about the tragedies of the past.

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Don't forget misogynistic and anti-LGBTQ since he's making fun of a Dijk...
How dare you sir! How DARE you?!?!
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God I know the odds are slim but who wouldn't want to see Zagreb vs Red Star in a knock out stage?
Well red star are a semi pro team with a bunch of plumbers on the squad according to Stephen warnock

https://mobile.twitter.com/elpivotef...53926489223179

So, seems unlikely
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I mean we all predicted the end of Madrid when Spurs and Liverpool made the final. It's just how we do.
No we didnt
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Uli Hoeness has announced he will leave his post as Bayern Munich president in November with former adidas CEO Herbert Hainer set to take over.
https://global.espn.com/football/bay...nich-president

They need new blood all over the place at Bayern.
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Munich will be fine. It's a rebuilding stage for them right now but they needed to get younger.

Losing Sanches hurt but in the last two windows they added Lucas Hernandez (23), Pavard (23), Cusance (20), Davies (18), Goretzka (23), Coman (23), Gnabry (24), Tolisso (25), & Sule (23).

Plus Alaba is still only 27, and Kimmich is 24.

They aren't the sure thing top 4 in the world squad they were for the first half of this decade but I'm guessing they will get there again in 2 years or so.
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No love for the Europa League Draw?

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Group A: Sevilla, APOEL, Qarabag, Dudelange

Group B: Dynamo Kiev, FC Copenhagen, Malmo, Lugano

Group C: Basel, Krasnodar, Getafe, Trabzonspor

Group D: Sporting CP, PSV, Rosenborg, LASK

Group E: Lazio, Celtic, Rennes, Cluj

Group F: Arsenal, Eintracht Frankfurt, Standard Liege, Vitoria

Group G: Porto, Young Boys, Feyenoord, Rangers

Group H: CSKA Moscow, Ludogorets, Espanyol, Ferencvaros

Group I: Wolfsburg, Gent, St. Etienne, Olexandriya

Group J: Roma, Borussia Monchengladbach, Istanbul Basaksehir, Wolfsberg

Group K: Besiktas, Braga, Wolves, Slovan Bratislava

Group L: Manchester United, Astana, Partizan Belgrade, AZ Alkmaar

United, who won the competition in 2017, are now looking at travelling to Kazakhstan and Serbia as well as the Netherlands. Solskjaer's men face the prospect of a 6,000 mile round trip to Kazakhstan, with another 2,000 mile round trip to Belgrade to contend with as well. United have never played in Kazakhstan before, with Solskjaer's side set for a six-and-a-half hour journey during what will be a hectic fixture schedule.
https://www.espn.com/soccer/uefa-eur...avel-nightmare

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There are some believe that a riot in Zagreb between Dinamo and Red Star fans touched off the war in 1991. So Locke's claim isn't outlandish IMO.

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A famous Croatian and Dinamo captain, Zvonimir Boban drop kicked a riot police in defense of a Dinamo fan.

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I have no doubt that a Dinamo-Red Star rematch in a R16 would ignite passions and bring back memories of the 1990 riot. Likely wouldn't be played behind closed doors, but a special ruling would come down from UEFA that no visiting fans are allowed. This happened when Croatia & Serbia played each other in qualifying in 2013, with Croatia obviously coming out on top
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Euro qualifiers back on tsn looks like

They are showing a few games a day starting next thursday, and I think they said every game is available streaming
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