2022/2023 English Premier League

[Bagor]

Hawkeye showed clearly over. But then again there's been issues with that technology too.

Knew it was in the when I saw Attwell's head drop in resignation that his watch was vibrating.

[Bagor]

All kicking off between Keane, Neville and Jimmy Floyd over Ronaldo. 🤣

[SuperMatt18]

With Ronaldo I think both sides are to blame, although that’s only if the rumor he was willing to take a 30% wage cut is true.

To keep him around though and then not play him that much you’re just asking for something like this to shake out.

Haaland was able to get a brace today…was worried for him after his one match scoring drought.

Always good to see Liverpool lose.

[devo22]

Keane and Ferdinand kissing Ronaldos ass is pathetic. We get it, he's your old pal. Doesn't mean you can't criticize him when he ####s on the club.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

With Ronaldo I think both sides are to blame, although that’s only if the rumor he was willing to take a 30% wage cut is true.

To keep him around though and then not play him that much you’re just asking for something like this to shake out.

Haaland was able to get a brace today…was worried for him after his one match scoring drought.

Always good to see Liverpool lose.

Heathen.

[d_phaneuf]

First time I've seen liverpool not heavy favorite for top 4 since season started, even with struggles they had always been clear 2nd behind city

Right now, in american odds

City -50000
Arsenal -700
Liverpool -160
Spurs -140
Chelsea -125
United +160

Arsenal could be 14 points up on liverpool with a win at St Mary's tomorrow

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by devo22

Keane and Ferdinand kissing Ronaldos ass is pathetic. We get it, he's your old pal. Doesn't mean you can't criticize him when he ####s on the club.

He wasn't refusing to criticize him or excusing his behaviour. Agreeing that the punishment was appropriate but was questioning the treatment that led up to the event.

Was more making the point that it was over, get on with it stating the likes of Scholes had done similar (refused to turn up for a game) and that Ronaldo like Scholes had probably been fined a couple of weeks wages.

Where they differed was what he could offer the team. Keane feels he still has a lot to offer whilst Jimmy and Neville disagreed stating he was at best now a (very good) impact sub but whereas most players at that age would be happy with that Ronaldo wouldn't hence why they need to part ways.

But, yes, there was an element of an old captain trying to protect his player and I'm guessing a part of Keane lashing out at the club on how he feels they treat senior players at the end of their careers based maybe on his own experience. He's talked about this a lot.

Also talk about a rift between CR and the coaching staff and him being critical of coaching methods. If true, he absolutely needs to go. If there is one thing that has destroyed the club in the last few years it's been too much player power.

Overall, I'm happy with the way TH has managed it. Dealt with it. Minimized the drama around it. Kept it in the club and stamped his authority.

[devo22]

there's obviously projection going on. With the way his own United career ended (plus that whole Ireland episode, to an extent), Keane probably sees parallels. I also get that as a pundit, it's probably hard to put your loyalty aside. When Solskjaer was in charge, Keane defended him and shat on the players. Now that it's about Ronaldo and ten Hag, he takes the other side.

But both Keane and Ferdinand miss the critical detail that Ronaldo has been #### this season. Ferdinand made the point that other United players were also afforded more freedom in the past and that players were treated differently. But guess what, Ferguson also only gave that freedom to players who made a difference. Ronaldo doesn't anymore. Keane also fails to understand that. Only two weeks ago, he said the PLs three best players right now are Haaland, de Bruyne and Ronaldo. That's all you need to know, really. These guys live in the past, and Neville was correct to point that out.

I also think ten Hag couldn't have handled it better. I'm sure he's pragmatic enough to leave the door open because he really can't afford not to, given that he only has Rashford and an always-injured Martial. I'm also sure he'll drop Ronaldo like a hot potato if he gets "his" striker in January, whoever that might be.

[Senator Clay Davis]

As great as Lloris was Wednesday, he's had a stinker so far today.

[Slava]

The time wasting is just ridiculous. I think Newcastle started in about the tenth minute, and I really don’t see why there’s nothing done (overall, not just in this game). The commentators gleefully chuckle that they’re trying to run down the clock and we all know what’s happening. Then the sign goes up to say 5 minutes of time. It’s not close to the real number. Part of me is thrilled because we don’t need 8 minutes of this, but it’s pretty pathetic.

[Bagor]

Wah wah wah. No different from any game.

Newcastle playing down the clock didn't beat the Spurs. Another half hour and they still weren't scoring.

[cam_wmh]

Couple comments after the weekend.

That wee club in the North East is now top 4, and they haven't even dug into the exponential riches that they are afforded to.

And how wild would it be, if the prodigy in Arteta kept the mentor beneath him, despite Pep possessing the greatest striking season we may ever see.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

Couple comments after the weekend.

That wee club in the North East is now top 4, and they haven't even dug into the exponential riches that they are afforded to.

And how wild would it be, if the prodigy in Arteta kept the mentor beneath him, despite Pep possessing the greatest striking season we may ever see.

I don’t think we have to worry about Arteta and them winning the league. There’s a long way to go and a lot to happen before that has a chance. They might not even be top four when it’s all said and done.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Slava

I don’t think we have to worry about Arteta and them winning the league. There’s a long way to go and a lot to happen before that has a chance. They might not even be top four when it’s all said and done.

This is going to be a wild season, who knows whats going to happen?

Having a mid-season World Cup is going to be insane.

[Bagor]

And Jesse Marsch still has a job.
Barely.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Locke

This is going to be a wild season, who knows whats going to happen?

Having a mid-season World Cup is going to be insane.

Yeah that’s a whole new wrinkle. Some of these guys are going to be exhausted (depending on how far their WC takes them), and then it’s right into the holiday season, FA Cup and a hectic new year. I think it’s hard to say how the table looks in 7-8 months regularly, but more so this year.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Slava

Yeah that’s a whole new wrinkle. Some of these guys are going to be exhausted (depending on how far their WC takes them), and then it’s right into the holiday season, FA Cup and a hectic new year. I think it’s hard to say how the table looks in 7-8 months regularly, but more so this year.

Oh its going to be great! Most of the major clubs are going to have players that are worn out and plain exhausted, everyone from mid-table down is going to be attacking them balls to the wall.

I would.

If I'm a mid-table manager my plan is to absolutely harvest teams for points in the back half of the schedule because their stars are going to be exhausted.

This is going to be interesting.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

And how wild would it be, if the prodigy in Arteta kept the mentor beneath him, despite Pep possessing the greatest striking season we may ever see.

Regardless. He's done a decent job there.
A cohesive unit. Well drilled. And the youngest squad in the PL.
Think they'll easily make top 4.

[devo22]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1584621699294797827

[Slava]

Anyone see the highlights of West Ham and Bournemouth? No idea how the first goal stood. It was basically a volleyball pass and somehow VAR lets it go? So ridiculous.

The penalty was more questionable. I thought when it was that close, talkative they weren’t giving those anymore? I guess only if it deflects though. Regardless, those penalties are tough because while it’s in the box, it gives that 70% chance at a goal for a play that was not actually a scoring chance.