02-26-2023, 12:58 PM
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#11461
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Flames are pretty threadbare on defensive prospects anywhere near promotion. The hanafin chatter only exists because of the potential return of kylington, and I have my doubts that is going to happen. There is literally no one to replace Taney on the right.
If calgary makes moves, it will be from the forwards ranks, with Phillips, zary, zohorna and the forgotten Petterson waiting in the wings.
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02-26-2023, 01:12 PM
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#11462
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Harry Lime
Flames are pretty threadbare on defensive prospects anywhere near promotion. The hanafin chatter only exists because of the potential return of kylington, and I have my doubts that is going to happen. There is literally no one to replace Taney on the right.
If calgary makes moves, it will be from the forwards ranks, with Phillips, zary, zohorna and the forgotten Petterson waiting in the wings.
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I would add Coronato too, providing they get him signed.
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02-26-2023, 01:29 PM
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#11463
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Calgary
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Would Toffoli to the canes make sense? Fits their mould, and would become one of their top goal scorers. His contract also aligns with their Aho window. Not sure about the money aspect of it.
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02-26-2023, 01:33 PM
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#11464
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Vedder
Would Toffoli to the canes make sense? Fits their mould, and would become one of their top goal scorers. His contract also aligns with their Aho window. Not sure about the money aspect of it.
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Interesting.
If Meier goes to the devils, this could make sense.
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02-26-2023, 01:46 PM
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#11465
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by TOfan
Interesting.
If Meier goes to the devils, this could make sense.
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Think they would be willing to give up Jarvis ?
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02-26-2023, 01:47 PM
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#11466
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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For Toffoli?? No.
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02-26-2023, 01:47 PM
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#11467
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames1217
Think they would be willing to give up Jarvis ?
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Was thinking Gunler.
Or absolutely max out and send Tanev and Toff there seeing as they're looking for d and scoring.
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02-26-2023, 01:50 PM
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#11468
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Canes have all sorts of goodies the Flames could use for a retool on the fly. Their prospect list reads like page #1 of a draft guide.
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02-26-2023, 01:54 PM
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#11469
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First Line Centre
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In my opinion, the Canes are the best run NHL team. Their front office is full of really smart people. But I think the thing that sets them apart is that their owner actually helps the hockey operations!
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02-26-2023, 02:06 PM
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#11470
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelson
In my opinion, the Canes are the best run NHL team. Their front office is full of really smart people. But I think the thing that sets them apart is that their owner actually helps the hockey operations!
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Difference between building a solid foundation over time rather than just trying to make the playoffs each year for revenue
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02-26-2023, 02:14 PM
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#11471
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelson
In my opinion, the Canes are the best run NHL team. Their front office is full of really smart people. But I think the thing that sets them apart is that their owner actually helps the hockey operations!
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I haven’t listened to it yet, but Seravelli interviewed Tom Dundon on his podcast, frankly speaking, and what sounded refreshing from a hockey perspective is it sounds like he has told Waddel and Brind’Amour that they aren’t going anywhere and he sees them as the GM and coach for as long as they want to be. The stability and long term thinking is rare for the NHL and unheard of for the Flames.
The benefits of this approach are apparent. Not only are they a contender they have a surplus of picks and prospects. The Canes are playing chess while the Flsmes are playing checkers in this regard.
The Flames now have a seasoned GM who cut his teeth in their organization. Give him the ball and, Edwards, get out of the way.
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02-26-2023, 03:53 PM
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#11472
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Scoring Winger
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Ehlers seems to be in and out of the doghouse in Winnipeg. We could certainly use his speed.
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02-26-2023, 04:00 PM
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#11473
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Flames_F.T.W
Ehlers seems to be in and out of the doghouse in Winnipeg. We could certainly use his speed.
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They wont subtract from their roster.
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02-26-2023, 04:10 PM
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#11474
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TOfan
I haven’t listened to it yet, but Seravelli interviewed Tom Dundon on his podcast, frankly speaking, and what sounded refreshing from a hockey perspective is it sounds like he has told Waddel and Brind’Amour that they aren’t going anywhere and he sees them as the GM and coach for as long as they want to be. The stability and long term thinking is rare for the NHL and unheard of for the Flames.
The benefits of this approach are apparent. Not only are they a contender they have a surplus of picks and prospects. The Canes are playing chess while the Flsmes are playing checkers in this regard.
The Flames now have a seasoned GM who cut his teeth in their organization. Give him the ball and, Edwards, get out of the way.
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Treliving has been around for 9 yrs. The 6th longest serving GM in the NHL
I am not sure what stability and long term complain is about
His method hasn’t worked. What make you think it would work now.?
Last edited by Flamesfan05; 02-26-2023 at 04:12 PM.
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02-26-2023, 04:14 PM
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#11475
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
Treliving has been around for 9 yrs. The 6th longest serving GM in the NHL
I am not sure what stability and long term complain is about
His method hasn’t worked. What make you think it would work now.?
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Treliving’s method or Edwards?
Pretty sure it’s not Treliving who is setting the mandate of make the playoffs every year.
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02-26-2023, 04:18 PM
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#11476
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TOfan
I haven’t listened to it yet, but Seravelli interviewed Tom Dundon on his podcast, frankly speaking, and what sounded refreshing from a hockey perspective is it sounds like he has told Waddel and Brind’Amour that they aren’t going anywhere and he sees them as the GM and coach for as long as they want to be. The stability and long term thinking is rare for the NHL and unheard of for the Flames.
The benefits of this approach are apparent. Not only are they a contender they have a surplus of picks and prospects. The Canes are playing chess while the Flsmes are playing checkers in this regard.
The Flames now have a seasoned GM who cut his teeth in their organization. Give him the ball and, Edwards, get out of the way.
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I wish we did the same thing with Sutter / Treiliving. Every player is interchangeable and management / analytics / drafting and coaching are prioritized. Build every team around the RFA period with 1 month before training cap UFAs used to supplement certain positions. Accept that we're never signing any other kind of UFA, even our own.
The "change the coach" crowd can get stuffed.
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02-26-2023, 04:27 PM
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#11477
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TOfan
Treliving’s method or Edwards?
Pretty sure it’s not Treliving who is setting the mandate of make the playoffs every year.
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You don’t possibly think that Edwards said “sign Brouwer, Raymond, Neal and Markstrom” do you?
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02-26-2023, 04:29 PM
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#11478
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Weird question to answer but do we know how much revenue each additional playoff game brings? I'm very curious, what the opportunity cost of giving up the playoffs to do a full rebuild would cost.
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02-26-2023, 04:30 PM
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#11479
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
Treliving has been around for 9 yrs. The 6th longest serving GM in the NHL
I am not sure what stability and long term complain is about
His method hasn’t worked. What make you think it would work now.?
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I'm not sold on Treliving necessarily. But the "method" is on ownership - not the GM. Murray and Co. want to be "competitive" every year. It doesn't work, but they'll continue to try.
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02-26-2023, 04:33 PM
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#11480
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by madmike
I'm not sold on Treliving necessarily. But the "method" is on ownership - not the GM. Murray and Co. want to be "competitive" every year. It doesn't work, but they'll continue to try.
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Maybe but Treliving is executing at badly if the mandate is to make the playoffs or even win a round or two
He is allowed to spend max caps every year. I doubt it’s the owners that make decisions on which players to trade for.
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