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1qqaaz · 01-31-2023, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandman

I’m a HUGE Tanner Jeannot fan, but I wonder if last year was an anomaly. He’s never been a huge scorer at any level, other than the last few years. The other problem is that he’s not a great skater. I fear that the fan base would see him as a younger Looch. I like him a lot though, he’s one of the toughest in the league, and when he’s on, he plays a nice, physical, power game. I think Sutter would love him too-big, western Canadian boy.

I'm a big Preds fan, and I would say Jeannot is my favorite player on the team. He does every you want a player to do and I wouldn't doubt if he brings it to another level in the playoffs. He's often awarded as the hardest working player of the game.

Plus, if there were any forwards that would excel under Sutter, it would be him.

But with all that said, I don't think he's a top 6 players. I do think last year as an anomaly in terms of point totals.

TOfan · 01-31-2023, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Cobra

He is controlled, Horvat was not.

The cost will be higher.

Will it?

Meier’s due a $10M QO on a one year deal. He has significant negotiating leverage. He’s controlled, but with an asterisk, I’d say.

GioforPM · 01-31-2023, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TOfan

Will it?

Meier’s due a $10M QO on a one year deal. He has significant negotiating leverage. He’s controlled, but with an asterisk, I’d say.

So he's a low rent Tkachuk. Not a unicorn - maybe a show pony.

jg13 · 01-31-2023, 03:39 PM

Pagnotta has Flames Stars and Leafs linked to Tyler Bertuzzi

https://twitter.com/user/status/1620507204427325440

Paulie Walnuts · 01-31-2023, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jg13

Pagnotta has Flames Stars and Leafs linked to Tyler Bertuzzi

https://twitter.com/user/status/1620507204427325440

A guy who quits on his team. No thank you.

ComixZone · 01-31-2023, 04:31 PM

Bertuzzi's season has been outright bad, but maybe there's some hidden value? As is he's got 5 points in 17 games - which, yuck.

xGF%: 50.55 (4th best on team)
GF%: 36.84 (6th worst on team)
SCF%: 49.27 (3rd best on team)

So maybe there's some hidden value in there...but with numbers like that, I feel he'd fit right into our culture of generating chances and not scoring on them. Acquisition cost would have to be dirt cheap. Depth pick only.

Macindoc · 01-31-2023, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Is it?
Eat Bread and Kylington both have some risk attached to them.

Sabres got 3 good young pieces. That's what SJ will want.

Add to that the fact that as a rebuilding team, SJ will have zero interest in Kylington or Mangiapane. To them, those players are just cap dumps. They will want players younger than 25, picks, and prospects. We would have to pay extra to send either of those players the other way.

Macindoc · 01-31-2023, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

So he's a low rent Tkachuk. Not a unicorn - maybe a show pony.

With a 10M QO, he’s not even a low rent Tkachuk, he’s just a less skilled Tkachuk.

Enoch Root · 01-31-2023, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Macindoc

Add to that the fact that as a rebuilding team, SJ will have zero interest in Kylington or Mangiapane. To them, those players are just cap dumps. They will want players younger than 25, picks, and prospects. We would have to pay extra to send either of those players the other way.

Even rebuilding teams have to ice a lineup. Also, they will have to take salary back to get a deal done. And both of those guys will have value for them to move back out in the future.

So yes, I think they would be interested in those guys.

Enoch Root · 01-31-2023, 04:49 PM

I just don't see any way we could make Meier work with that salary

Macho0978 · 01-31-2023, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Macindoc

With a 10M QO, he’s not even a low rent Tkachuk, he’s just a less skilled Tkachuk.

Can't whoever pick up Meier file for team arbitration and block him from accepting the QO? Not sure what that number is but it should be far less than $10M.

Mangiapane should still have value too. If the Sharks are already near the bottom of the league and they trade Meier and Karlsson, how does Mangipane ruin their rebuild plans? Is the 2024 draft worth a complete tank job too? Probably not compared to this draft.

Macho0978 · 01-31-2023, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I just don't see any way we could make Meier work with that salary

Depends on what Meier gets. Still possible he does not get $10 mil per year. I wouldn't want him at that much anyways.

Problem with trading for him is the prospects we lose. Hard to dump Toffoli or Backlund or Coleman to keep Meier when you deplete the prospects trading for him.

dammage79 · 01-31-2023, 05:23 PM

Yeah Meirs a no go.

But the more I think about Brad Trelivings body of work and what's out there, I've got Jacob Chycrun penciled in as trees big acquisition. I personally don't care too much about Chuchrun or him being on the Flames but it's the move that makes the most sense given the assets Tree has to work with. Especially if you're going to pivot from another d man like Hanifin next year.

I'd much rather a stab at a similar thing to a Tolvanen claim at forward anyhow. We got some really good kids coming up needing spots real quick. So it makes sense tree would go after a young D man. IMO.

Sandman · 01-31-2023, 05:27 PM

Bertuzzi would be a great add. He’s got size, speed, good hands, and he’s gritty as hell. Perfect guy for the playoffs. I feel we would all love him very quickly.

PepsiFree · 01-31-2023, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandman

Bertuzzi would be a great add. He’s got size, speed, good hands, and he’s gritty as hell. Perfect guy for the playoffs. I feel we would all love him very quickly.

Until he quits on the team and decides he‘s only going to play home games.

Sandman · 01-31-2023, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Until he quits on the team and decides he‘s only going to play home games.

Very true.

Sandman · 01-31-2023, 05:39 PM

Just spitballin’, but what if Tre was able to negotiate a deal with the Meier camp that pays him $8.5 -9 mil/yr? Assuming someone like Mang goes back in the deal (or gets traded elsewhere), and Lucic comes off the books next year, perhaps it’s beginning to look more palatable? There would still be some manoeuvres to be done, but Meier looks to be settling in as a ppg winger, so that’s not a bad cap hit going forward…..

dammage79 · 01-31-2023, 05:43 PM

Need to be thinking cheaper. For 2 years at least. Go find some value. We have our sunk assets already.

Sandman · 01-31-2023, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dammage79

Need to be thinking cheaper. For 2 years at least. Go find some value. We have our sunk assets already.

Idk, in two years, Kadri is 33, Backs is 35, Marky is 35, and so on…

The Cobra · 01-31-2023, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandman

Just spitballin’, but what if Tre was able to negotiate a deal with the Meier camp that pays him $8.5 -9 mil/yr? Assuming someone like Mang goes back in the deal (or gets traded elsewhere), and Lucic comes off the books next year, perhaps it’s beginning to look more palatable? There would still be some manoeuvres to be done, but Meier looks to be settling in as a ppg winger, so that’s not a bad cap hit going forward…..

The raises to Hubby and Weegar kick in next year, Lucic already spent and then some.