12-05-2022, 12:38 PM
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#7461
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
Rumor is they want to dump the cap hit. Lucic clears $5.25M of the cap hit. I don’t see any team taking on Boeser without wanting to send back an equally questionable contract. The Flames waited too long to move Monahan and the Canucks have done the same with Boeser.
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I then we can get Patrick Kane for a fourth!!
Why would the Canucks help a division rival by taking two guys that'll be out of the NHL next year??
Lucic has no value and Rooney is a dime a dozen guy everyone has 5 of in the minors.
Boeser return will be underwhelming I'm sure but it won't be two bags of garbage
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12-05-2022, 12:43 PM
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#7462
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Icantwhisper
Why would the Canucks help a division rival by taking two guys that'll be out of the NHL next year??
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Because they want the cap space? If you can take on two guys that have expiring contracts and get rid of $6.6M, you're pretty happy.
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12-05-2022, 12:47 PM
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#7463
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Scoring Winger
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I dont see how we make the cap work next season. Even with lucic coming off the books we are going to have to plug our roster with league mins to just barely be compliant. Bringing in Boeser would require moving 6m worth of cap next season
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12-05-2022, 12:49 PM
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#7464
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Full quote from Dhaliwal
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Two or three weeks ago, Boeser was dropped to the third line [and] off of PP1. And what agents will do, they'll call the GM to discuss a player's drop in ice time. I believe those sides led to both sides agreeing to a move, mutually. This has been in the works with Boeser for a few weeks.
Now, confirmation this morning, definitely teams are interested in Boeser, no question, but this is gonna take time. The Canucks know they're not getting much in return. Sources say the Canucks are willing to take a player back, Don, in return, preferably a player in his last year, but, I've heard, possibly with two years left on a deal. Boeser's gonna be tough to move, Donnie, and you know it: four goals in 19 games, minus-13, $6.6 million a year. Someone said to me teams may want a sweetener in return. If that's the case, it's gonna be really tough.
The key for the Canucks is cap space next year. That's the flexibility they're looking for where they're going. Boeser is still young, he's got a history of multiple 20-goal seasons. Not sure, the thing I haven't confirmed is if the Canucks will eat salary on years two and three of Boeser's deal.
Now, this is one thing I do know. The Calgary Flames are looking for a goal-scorer. I heard last night Calgary may have interest in Boeser. Not confirmed, but teams poke around, Donnie, trying to find the price and see if there's a fit. Lots of former Canucks in the Calgary dressing room who could vouch for Boeser.
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12-05-2022, 12:52 PM
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#7465
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: VanCity
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I would say no to Boeser if we still have Toffoli. They are too similar of players, Boeser being slightly better. My wishlist is a quicker winger that can create space.
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12-05-2022, 12:52 PM
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#7466
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Franchise Player
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I'd be into Boeser. We need more finishing ability and that's what he does. He's also in a good age range for the team.
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12-05-2022, 12:56 PM
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#7467
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Scoring Winger
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we can't keep bringing in Canucks and then wonder why we are under performing
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12-05-2022, 01:06 PM
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#7468
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#1 Goaltender
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Flames have 79 million of cap committed in 2023 with Lucic coming off the books. All his money is going to Huberdeau's raise. Acquiring Boeser (or Josh Anderson etc) is basically impossible but also stupid. Pick your favourite ~2 out of Kylington, Hanifin, Backlund Lindholm Toffoli. You will only keep a couple.
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12-05-2022, 01:13 PM
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#7469
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Scoring Winger
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Interesting that other teams are asking for a sweetener in return of taking Boeser. I am not a pro scout and do not watch Boeser play so I have no idea how he would fit and if we should even bother, but I would think that Lucic could go the other way. He has 1 year left which would allow Canucks to get out of Boeser's contract and free up the cap space after this season, and would add a goal scorer to our team buuuuut do we need another slow player? Huberdeau needs to play with fast players, they do not need to be good shooters, we all know Bennett is not a shooter...
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12-05-2022, 01:15 PM
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#7470
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by saillias
Flames have 79 million of cap committed in 2023 with Lucic coming off the books. All his money is going to Huberdeau's raise. Acquiring Boeser (or Josh Anderson etc) is basically impossible but also stupid. Pick your favourite ~2 out of Kylington, Hanifin, Backlund Lindholm Toffoli. You will only keep a couple.
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Yeah it would definitely create a cap problem next year, but teams manage cap problems every year.
What if we find out Hanifin doesn’t intend to re-sign long term? Well, there’s cap required to cover Boeser (on a projected $86.5M cap). Or Dube + Kylington moving on could resolve that.
I still think we have to become something worth maintaining before we worry about maintaining it. Right now our top-six is missing a goal scorer, and we could fix that with Boeser.
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12-05-2022, 01:21 PM
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#7471
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by traptor
I dont see how we make the cap work next season. Even with lucic coming off the books we are going to have to plug our roster with league mins to just barely be compliant. Bringing in Boeser would require moving 6m worth of cap next season
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You mean like Tampa has done?
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12-05-2022, 01:25 PM
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#7472
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by saillias
Flames have 79 million of cap committed in 2023 with Lucic coming off the books. All his money is going to Huberdeau's raise. Acquiring Boeser (or Josh Anderson etc) is basically impossible but also stupid. Pick your favourite ~2 out of Kylington, Hanifin, Backlund Lindholm Toffoli. You will only keep a couple.
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Possibility that there is a business decision coming on Kylington?
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12-05-2022, 01:29 PM
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#7473
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Icantwhisper
I then we can get Patrick Kane for a fourth!!
Why would the Canucks help a division rival by taking two guys that'll be out of the NHL next year??
Lucic has no value and Rooney is a dime a dozen guy everyone has 5 of in the minors.
Boeser return will be underwhelming I'm sure but it won't be two bags of garbage
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Obvious answer is cap space
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12-05-2022, 01:36 PM
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#7474
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: I'm right behind you
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Originally Posted by Yikes
Possibility that there is a business decision coming on Kylington?
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If the Flames were to trade a player on leave for family reasons then they would deserve every character of bad press levied against them.
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12-05-2022, 01:45 PM
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#7475
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Reaper
If the Flames were to trade a player on leave for family reasons then they would deserve every character of bad press levied against them.
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I did not mention a trade but some form of cap relief would help. As mentioned before, we don't even know if he is skating.
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12-05-2022, 01:46 PM
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#7476
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Franchise Player
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Surely the Flames can LTIR him with what other teams get away with
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12-05-2022, 01:47 PM
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#7477
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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If Kylington were eligible to be placed on LTIR it would have happened. He isn't hurt (educated guess), and no relief is coming.
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12-05-2022, 02:05 PM
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#7478
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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You have to be over the cap to use LTIR. The Flames aren't over the cap.
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12-05-2022, 02:06 PM
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#7479
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by icantwhisper
we can't keep bringing in canucks and then wonder why we are under performing, why our players bite other players, and why i suddenly have the urge to burn some cars
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12-05-2022, 02:11 PM
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#7480
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Icantwhisper
I then we can get Patrick Kane for a fourth!!
Why would the Canucks help a division rival by taking two guys that'll be out of the NHL next year??
Lucic has no value and Rooney is a dime a dozen guy everyone has 5 of in the minors.
Boeser return will be underwhelming I'm sure but it won't be two bags of garbage
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Weird take.
Monahan cost the Flames a 1st to dump for 1 year. Boeser has 2 years left after this one so are the Canucks paying in high picks to dump the salary?
Patrick Kane is a weird name to throw in there because he is a positive asset pending UFA and not a questionable asset who looks grossly overpaid for a couple of years. Flames take huge risk with the deal so would only be willing to include throw away players
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