2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

He wouldn't be the first player in history to see a significant drop in production at his age. He is at the tail end of when players normally peak.

His 115 points last season was a bit of an outlier for him. It was never realistic to expect a repeat of that, especially when he is in is 29-30 year old season.

How was it a outlier he was literally trending towards a 100 points the previous 3 seasons it was about to happen.

It's time people put some respeck on his name. He was the most consistent performer out of the 3 big names to change this off season. All of a sudden some idiot who no one even knows says he is the worst player ever and everyone thinks he is some bum.

[Captain Otto]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

If he doesn’t turn it around and they missed the playoffs, there will be a lot of pressure on him next year

He will be 30 to start that 8 yrs contract. It has a good chance of becoming a disaster and Treliving will for sure be remembered for it.

What are you basing this on? 50 games as a Flame?

The guy has been a ppg player for 4 years straight including the 115 point season last year. I'd say it has a better chance of becoming going rate in the NHL.

P.S. Your post history is embarrassing. Is there a Flame you haven't #### on in the last few years? Doesn't look like it.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by Captain Otto

What are you basing this on? 50 games as a Flame?

The guy has been a ppg player for 4 years straight including the 115 point season last year. I'd say it has a better chance of becoming going rate in the NHL.

P.S. Your post history is embarrassing. Is there a Flame you haven't #### on in the last few years? Doesn't look like it.

He suddenly loves them when they get traded though!

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Captain Otto

What are you basing this on? 50 games as a Flame?

The guy has been a ppg player for 4 years straight including the 115 point season last year. I'd say it has a better chance of becoming going rate in the NHL.

P.S. Your post history is embarrassing. Is there a Flame you haven't #### on in the last few years? Doesn't look like it.

Yes based on how he is doing now. That’s why I said he needs to turn around. 50 games is not a small sample.

So pointing out problems is embarrassing. Ok man

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Yes based on how he is doing now. That’s why I said he needs to turn around. 50 games is not a small sample.

So pointing out problems is embarrassing. Ok man

50 games in a 600 plus game career is a small sample size.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Captain Otto

What are you basing this on? 50 games as a Flame?

The guy has been a ppg player for 4 years straight including the 115 point season last year. I'd say it has a better chance of becoming going rate in the NHL.

P.S. Your post history is embarrassing. Is there a Flame you haven't #### on in the last few years? Doesn't look like it.

It's a valid fear

But he has as much a chance of being effective through 35/36 as the alternative

The last 2 years are probably guaranteed to be painful

I, like others, think he will be back at his normal clip by next season

He's just taking the eichel route and needs a season to get up to speed in a very different environment

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Yes based on how he is doing now. That’s why I said he needs to turn around. 50 games is not a small sample.

So pointing out problems is embarrassing. Ok man

All you ever do is point out problems...until the player goes elsewhere and then you love them

You wonder why people question your motives

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dino7c

All you ever do is point out problems...until the player goes elsewhere and then you love them

You wonder why people question your motives

Isn't it well accepted that he is really OilersFan05 by now

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

How was it a outlier he was literally trending towards a 100 points the previous 3 seasons it was about to happen.

It's time people put some respeck on his name. He was the most consistent performer out of the 3 big names to change this off season. All of a sudden some idiot who no one even knows says he is the worst player ever and everyone thinks he is some bum.

In 20/21, he was on pace for 91 points over 82 games.
In 19/20, he was on pace for 92 points over 82 games.
In 18/19, he had 91 points in 82 games.

The 115 points he had last season was 25% higher than anything he had done previously in his career, so yes, that is an outlier.

[Captain Otto]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Yes based on how he is doing now. That’s why I said he needs to turn around. 50 games is not a small sample.

So pointing out problems is embarrassing. Ok man

My bad. I missed the, "just play better" positive vibes preamble.

You took a 7% game sample size of his production and then said, it has a "good chance" of becoming a disaster. Is that pointing out problems or creating them?

[Groot]

Fun Fact: In his last 30 games, Jonathan Huberdeau has 31 points, or a 84.7 point pace over full a season.

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by Groot

Fun Fact: In his last 30 games, Jonathan Huberdeau has 31 points, or a 84.7 point pace over full a season.

I count 24* points - or a 66 point pace.

[Manhattanboy]

I think you have to also include a playoff round or two to the mix before you can come to any real conclusions on a player.

[Knut]

I for one hope we add 2-3 bottom pair defenseman.

[redmile04]

Originally Posted by Groot

Fun Fact: In his last 30 games, Jonathan Huberdeau has 31 points, or a 84.7 point pace over full a season.

Well that would be nice if true, he has 24 points in his last 30 games. So not a fun fact.

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by Knut

I for one hope we add 2-3 bottom pair defenseman.

[dino7c]

He has 30 points in 30 select games...or something

Any rumors?

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by redmile04

Well that would be nice if true, he has 24 points in his last 30 games. So not a fun fact.

Ugh. That is actually the complete opposite of a fun fact and confirms what I already knew. He is going to be lucky to hit 60 points this season unless he comes out of this break absolute gang busters the rest of the way.

Hopefully he is able to get himself together next year and get back to the more dominant, 80ish point player he needs to be for the Flames.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by redmile04

Well that would be nice if true, he has 24 points in his last 30 games. So not a fun fact.

Which isn't bad for being new to a Sutter system and asked to tear down his run and gun game and rebuild it from the d-zone out

PPG pace isn't far off. If the powerplay could do anything at all right now, he would be there

The coaches badly need to go back to the drawing board there

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Ugh. That is actually the complete opposite of a fun fact and confirms what I already knew. He is going to be lucky to hit 60 points this season unless he comes out of this break absolute gang busters the rest of the way.

Hopefully he is able to get himself together next year and get back to the more dominant, 80ish point player he needs to be for the Flames.

Players have off years. Look at Gaudreau in the two seasons before last. Even now he’s well off of last year’s pace and he’s declined a lot defensively. And then add in new teammates, including a lot of Lucic. Huberdeau will get better than this year.