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Old 01-21-2012, 11:20 AM   #1
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For you guys who like me enjoy hip hop music please feel free to post your favorite hip hop tracks and discuss this music genre. Give your own two-cents on the state of hip hop music, how it has changed over the years and who you consider the greatest rappers of all time.
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Old 01-21-2012, 11:26 AM   #3
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Jay Z and Em should be top 5, Big Pun and Big L as much as they are good and dead they both only made 2-3 albums. Thats why Tupac should be #1 for the exact same reason.

Jay-z 11 platinum albums since '96 no one in your top ten comes close to that besides pac.
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Old 01-21-2012, 11:36 AM   #5
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Yeah, there's no way you can have Jay-Z as #10 on that list. He should be better than Nas, imo. Nas has slowly become an afterthought today, whereas Jay is still dropping some incredible music.
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I removed my top 10 list but i agree that i should had put Jay-Z higher. I personally enjoy Nas more and felt as though he never truly got the recognition that he deserved. He's considered top 5 on most peoples list ahead of Jay-Z so it's all about what others opinions are. Jay-Z is defiantly top 10 of all time though.
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Dr. Dre only made 3 solo albums, but everything he touched turned to gold, and him, along with the NWA, started gangster rap.

Although not a singular artist, A Tribe Called Quest has to be up there, IMO.

I think the top 2 of all times are Jay-Z and 2Pac, in no particular order, for their mainstream popularity.
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Jay-Z is up there for sure, his "Unplugged" album with the Roots band is off the hook.

Have to mention Mos Def (Yasiin Bey) as well for having great flow and great lyrics.

Nas' "Illmatic" gets my vote for all time best hip-hop album.
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Dr. Dre only made 3 solo albums, but everything he touched turned to gold, and him, along with the NWA, started gangster rap.

Although not a singular artist, A Tribe Called Quest has to be up there, IMO.

I think the top 2 of all times are Jay-Z and 2Pac, in no particular order, for their mainstream popularity.
I don't think anyone would argue if you put Tip on the list.
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I guess there's no love for some of the old school legends (at least so far) in this thread. I know that Jay-Z is in the mix, but you can't forget guys like Ice-T and Chuck D. I suppose if we're just talking record sales then it's a pretty easy comparison, but for my money it's also tough to overlook a guy like Maestro Fresh Wes. He had some great music and while he obviously didn't sell as many albums as the big US stars he was pretty solid IMO.

Before I get too far ahead of myself though I'm gonna throw out KRS-ONE as a guy who undoubtedly belongs in the conversation.
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I've got such a hard time putting together best rapper of all time list.

A few of my all time favorites are Apathy, Ill Bill, Celph Titled, Esoteric, Vinnie Paz, Rakim, KRS-One, Masta Ace, Nas, Kool G Rap, Method Man, Eminem, El-P, Aesop Rock, Sean Price, Scarface.

Plus a bunch of groups, it's way too difficult to come up with a good list.

I'm not a fan in most mainstream rap these days, I despise rappers like Mac Miller, Lil Wayne - straight up garbage.
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Lots of mainstream stuff mentioned but what about the less accessible stuff like:

- Atmosphere
- Haiku d'etat
- MF Doom
- Jean Grey

and how come nobody's even mentioned the Wu? Shocking.
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Surprised nobody has mentioned Drake, probably just because of all his mainstream popularity but truth be told in the hip hop community he is being looked at as the next best. I think he's got the talent and ability to have a long and award filled career, just my 2 cents.
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My top 10:

1. 2pac
2. Eminem
3. Biggie
4. Rakim
5. KRS-One
6. Nas
7. Big L
8. Kool G Rap
9. Ice-T
10. Jay-Z
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Surprised nobody has mentioned Drake, probably just because of all his mainstream popularity but truth be told in the hip hop community he is being looked at as the next best. I think he's got the talent and ability to have a long and award filled career, just my 2 cents.
He has a LONG way to go before even being mentioned on the top 50 of all time.
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Lots of mainstream stuff mentioned but what about the less accessible stuff like:

- Atmosphere
- Haiku d'etat
- MF Doom
- Jean Grey

and how come nobody's even mentioned the Wu? Shocking.
Wu Tang is a group, so I didn't really include them in my list. 36 Chambers is one of the best albums of all time. A lot of their members have dropped off in recent years, but there's no denying that their members have dropped some genre defining albums.
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Surprised nobody has mentioned Drake, probably just because of all his mainstream popularity but truth be told in the hip hop community he is being looked at as the next best. I think he's got the talent and ability to have a long and award filled career, just my 2 cents.
Wut.

I'm pretty sure no hip hop fan would ever consider tossing Drake's name in the pile for the next best.

He's not a good rapper - way too simplistic.
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Drake is very talented and well on his way to being mentioned in the top ten. I've been a hip hop head my whole life and it is sad to see what's become of the industry.

You don't know talent if you slag on Drake. The kid is the real deal.

Little Wayne is #### imo. Not a fan
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you little #######s don't know nothing, Grandmaster Flash who brought social conscience to the genre and paved the way for NWA and run DMC that allowed rap to use more than just funk and soul beats and thus paved the way for the harder edge that gangster rap needed, without them you'd be listening to Nickelback.

I'd also put the Beasties in their as well, they have outlasted everyone, constantly changed and experimented their sound, and it is actually their sound, it isn't some cut up bit of 60's funk with some purile teenage poem badly fitted over the top.

Gil Scot Heron is without doubt top 5 although he would probably belt anyone that called him a rapper as he was on record as thinking the genre a waste of time.


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